We've got some bad news for you, Fuller House fans. The show's creator, Jeff Franklin, told US Weekly that he's stopped bringing up a possible cameo to the Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen, who each took turns playing the precocious Michelle Tanner on the original television show. "I’ve stopped asking, really I kind of gave up," said Franklin. "But when somebody rings a doorbell, the girls yell, 'It’s always open!' on the show so that’s kind of how we feel about the Olsen twins. The door is open."

Despite the seemingly hopeful nature behind his additional comment there, he also said, "But I think we’ve gotten enough no's." That is, until he "opened the door" again, when he finished, saying, "We’re kind of done asking. But who knows? You never know in life. Who thought this whole thing would happen?"

Time and again, Franklin has expressed his near-disbelief that he's gotten the chance to make Fuller House, the Netflix-exclusive series revival. When he spoke about the show's 30th anniversary, he told CBS:

"It’s pretty crazy. It’s pretty special really, I’m having a lot of fun with these people that I love so much. And to get to work with them again is ridiculous and it’s a whole new thing because they were all little kids when we worked together the first time.

And now they are amazing women. It’s pretty cool. I feel like I raised them, even though I know I didn’t, I know that I did. I wrote enough dad lectures for them. I’m going to hang onto that."

To be fair, Franklin's attempts at getting the Olsen twins back onto the show (even for a cameo) can come off as a bit needling, as E! Online described it in their article regarding Fuller House's Thanksgiving episode. On the show, D.J. Tanner (Cameron Bure) led a toast, where she said, "We're so fortunate that we're all here together and we're healthy. We miss Michelle, we hope that she'll be with us next year." That would have been fine if, you know, that was where it ended. But then they had Uncle Jesse (John Stamos) break the fourth wall by looking at the camera to say, "Come, it'll be fun."

While it seems to be obvious to everyone else that the Olsens have moved on, it's that undying optimism that really defined the original Full House, which many folks still hold dearly in their hearts. Paste Magazine's Robin Raven easily qualifies as one of those fans, as they visited San Francisco in a bit of a whirlwind tour of all the Full House locations in the city. Raven shares a pretty fun look into some of the most tourist-ridden spots of the city, spots that you or I may look upon with a bit of a jaded, weathered eye. I mean come on, think about the first time you made the connection that the Tanners lived in San Fran-hecking-cisco. That's a nice feeling, isn't it?

Anyway, this upcoming season of Fuller House has its work cut out for it, Olsen twins or not. Its somewhat cringe-y second season didn't exactly do too well, as Variety pointed out. Somehow, the show defied the odds, and here we are, staring down the barrel of a third season, which lands on your friendly local streaming service tomorrow, Friday, September 22nd.

Have mercy.

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