<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/"><channel><title><![CDATA[mormon - SFist - San Francisco News, Restaurants, Events, & Sports]]></title><description><![CDATA[SFist is San Francisco's source for fun, witty, & serious news. With updates about restaurants, events, sports, politics & more, SFist reaches millions of users in California.]]></description><link>https://sfist.com/</link><image><url>https://sfist.com/favicon.png</url><title>mormon - SFist - San Francisco News, Restaurants, Events, &amp; Sports</title><link>https://sfist.com/</link></image><generator>Ghost 2.12</generator><lastBuildDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2026 06:06:06 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://sfist.com/mormon/rss/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Trial Underway for Vacaville Mormon Bishop Accused of Sexually Abusing Adopted Daughter]]></title><description><![CDATA[A former attorney and Mormon bishop in Vacaville is on trial for the sexual abuse of his then-11-year-old adopted daughter, and other church associates are giving some pretty damning testimony on the witness stand. ]]></description><link>https://sfist.com/2024/05/02/trial-underway-for-vacaville-mormon-bishop-accused-of-sexually-abusing-adopted-daughter/</link><guid isPermaLink="false">6633d32f5ff7c112bdf4c8ca</guid><category><![CDATA[SF News]]></category><category><![CDATA[solano county]]></category><category><![CDATA[vacaville]]></category><category><![CDATA[mormon]]></category><category><![CDATA[mormons]]></category><category><![CDATA[sexual abuse]]></category><dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Kukura]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2024 18:14:16 GMT</pubDate><media:content url="https://img.sfist.com/2024/05/solanococourt.jpeg" medium="image"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<img src="https://img.sfist.com/2024/05/solanococourt.jpeg" alt="Trial Underway for Vacaville Mormon Bishop Accused of Sexually Abusing Adopted Daughter"><p>A former attorney and Mormon bishop in Vacaville is on trial for the sexual abuse of his then-11-year-old adopted daughter, and other church associates are giving some pretty damning testimony on the witness stand. </p><p>In today’s episode of <a href="https://sfist.com/2023/12/02/richmond-pastor-arrested-on-charges-of-sex-crimes-against-underage-church-members/">It’s Often Clergy People</a> and <a href="https://sfist.com/2023/04/08/march-and-rally-drag-up-fight-back-saturday-at-sf-city-hall-protests-anti-drag-anti-trans-legislation/">It's Never Drag Queens</a> embroiled in real-world child sexual abuse scandals, the Vacaville Reporter brings us the news of the <a href="https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2024/05/02/haskell-friend-recalls-witnessing-troubling-father-daughter-dynamic/">ongoing trial of James Glenn Haskell</a>, a former attorney and Mormon bishop who now faces 16 counts of child sexual abuse in a Solano County Superior Court. Haskell and his wife had four adopted children, all of whom have since been removed from the home. </p><p>The most troubling allegations involve the eldest daughter, who was 11 years old at the time of the alleged crimes. Wednesday’s witnesses included a Solano County Child Welfare Services employee who’d visited the home, and two friends of the family and/or church associates who witnessed various suspicious behaviors at pool parties. </p><p>The now-16-year-old victim <a href="https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/04/23/alleged-sex-assault-victim-16-testifies-at-trial-of-former-vaca-attorney/">testified herself</a> Monday of last week, describing “inappropriate touching” and a “tickling game” with which Haskell allegedly engaged with the children. She was 11 and 12 years old at the time, and also described that once, as punishment, the parents took away her clothes and made her wear a garbage bag. </p><p>On Monday of this week, the East Bay Times reported that jurors heard a <a href="https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2024/04/30/jurors-hear-phone-recording-during-haskell-child-sex-assault-trial/amp/">phone call police had secretly wiretapped</a>, in which another Mormon church congregant confronted Haskell with the allegations. “She said you touched her private parts underneath her underwear,” the caller told Haskell.</p><p>The Times reports that Haskell could be heard “stammering and breathing in exasperation” upon being confronted. And as the conversation goes on, Haskell does seemingly admit guilt, saying “Tell her I’m sorry,” and “If she gives us another chance, we’re all about supporting.” He also added, “I was wrong. I will do better.”</p><p>Haskell’s trial continues Monday, though he’s currently out of custody on $240,000 bail.</p><p><strong>Related: </strong><a href="https://sfist.com/2023/12/02/richmond-pastor-arrested-on-charges-of-sex-crimes-against-underage-church-members/">Richmond Pastor Arrested on Charges of Sex Crimes Allegedly Against Underage Church Members [SFist]</a></p><p><em>Image: </em><a href="https://solano.courts.ca.gov/"><em>Superior Court of Solano</em></a></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Utah Ilk & LDS Church Spent More on Prop. 8 than Previously Known]]></title><description><![CDATA[Briefly touched upon <a href="http://sfist.com/2009/02/02/new_prop_8_donor_names_released.php">last week</a> when the final batch of Prop 8 donor names unfurled, Utah citizens and the LDS Church spent...]]></description><link>https://sfist.com/2009/02/10/utahns_lds_church_spent_more_on_pro/</link><guid isPermaLink="false">5c242e8144ad066cdcf814df</guid><category><![CDATA[SF News]]></category><category><![CDATA[califiornia]]></category><category><![CDATA[constitution]]></category><category><![CDATA[court]]></category><category><![CDATA[discrimination]]></category><category><![CDATA[donors]]></category><category><![CDATA[gay marriage]]></category><category><![CDATA[LDS]]></category><category><![CDATA[mormon]]></category><category><![CDATA[prop 8]]></category><category><![CDATA[same sex]]></category><category><![CDATA[Utah]]></category><dc:creator><![CDATA[Brock Keeling]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 16:12:53 GMT</pubDate><media:content url="https://img.sfist.com/assets_c/2009/02/mormon church utah prop 8-thumb-640xauto-62791.jpg" medium="image"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<img src="https://img.sfist.com/assets_c/2009/02/mormon church utah prop 8-thumb-640xauto-62791.jpg" alt="Utah Ilk & LDS Church Spent More on Prop. 8 than Previously Known"><p></p>

<p>Briefly touched upon <a href="http://sfist.com/2009/02/02/new_prop_8_donor_names_released.php">last week</a> when the final batch of Prop 8 donor names unfurled, Utah citizens and the LDS Church spent more on getting Prop. 8 passed than previously known. According to the <a href="http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_11666895">Salt Lake Tribune</a>:</p>

<blockquote>Utahans and the LDS Church spent significantly more than previously reported on last-minute efforts to push passage of California's ban of same-sex marriage, newly filed financial disclosures show.<br><br>

<p>Donations from as many as 1,025 individual and businesses in Utah to both sides of the Proposition 8 campaign totaled about $3.8 million, according to new filings with California's secretary of state, with more than 70 percent going to groups supporting the successful measure. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>This is unnerving. And, most disconcerting, not at all surprising.</p>

<p>The California State Supreme court will begin hearing arguments on Prop 8 starting March 5. Be sure to <a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2009/02/04/on-march-5-set-your-tivos-to-the-california-channel/">watch it all go down at 9am on the California Channel</a>. (Also, hey, no way, we have a <a href="http://www.calchannel.com/">California Channel</a>! Who knew?)</p>

<p>Check out <a href="http://stop8.org/">Stop8.org</a> for comprehensive coverage about civil marriage equality in California.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Mormon Church Investigated for Role in Prop 8]]></title><description><![CDATA[A complaint filed by civil rights organization <a href="http://www.californiansagainsthate.com">Californians Against Hate</a> prompted the the California Fair Political Practices Commission to investi...]]></description><link>https://sfist.com/2008/11/25/mormon_church_investigated_for_role/</link><guid isPermaLink="false">5c242bb844ad066cdcf69987</guid><category><![CDATA[SF News]]></category><category><![CDATA[church]]></category><category><![CDATA[gay]]></category><category><![CDATA[lesbian]]></category><category><![CDATA[march]]></category><category><![CDATA[marriage]]></category><category><![CDATA[mormon]]></category><category><![CDATA[prop 8]]></category><category><![CDATA[proposition 8]]></category><category><![CDATA[protest]]></category><category><![CDATA[same sex]]></category><dc:creator><![CDATA[Brock Keeling]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 08:35:58 GMT</pubDate><media:content url="https://img.sfist.com/assets_c/2008/12/entry194816_thumb-thumb-640xauto-40778.jpg" medium="image"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<img src="https://img.sfist.com/assets_c/2008/12/entry194816_thumb-thumb-640xauto-40778.jpg" alt="Mormon Church Investigated for Role in Prop 8"><p>A complaint filed by civil rights organization <a href="http://www.californiansagainsthate.com">Californians Against Hate</a> prompted the the California Fair Political Practices Commission to investigate the <a href="http://sfist.com/2008/11/07/prop_8_protest_117_san_francisco.php">LDS Church</a> and their work in supporting <a href="http://sfist.com/2008/11/06/thousands_protest_over_prop_8.php">Proposition 8</a>. It seems the <a href="http://sfist.com/2008/11/10/no_on_8_folks_this_isnt_necessary.php">Mormon church</a> allegedly concealed just how big a role they played in initiating a ban into the California constitution that would bar same-sex couples from getting married. According to AP, "the investigation does not mean there was any wrongdoing, only that commission staff have found evidence to warrant further inquiry."</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Mormon Allies to Support]]></title><description><![CDATA[Now that we've gotten all the <a href="http://sfist.com/2008/11/10/no_on_8_folks_this_isnt_necessary.php">childish bile</a> out of our system, please check out these sites aiming to bring people toget...]]></description><link>https://sfist.com/2008/11/13/mormon_allies_to_support/</link><guid isPermaLink="false">5c242dad44ad066cdcf79f66</guid><category><![CDATA[SF News]]></category><category><![CDATA[gay]]></category><category><![CDATA[LDS]]></category><category><![CDATA[lesbian]]></category><category><![CDATA[marriage]]></category><category><![CDATA[mormon]]></category><category><![CDATA[prop 8]]></category><category><![CDATA[proposition 8]]></category><category><![CDATA[same sex]]></category><dc:creator><![CDATA[Brock Keeling]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:00:00 GMT</pubDate><media:content url="https://img.sfist.com/assets_c/2008/12/entry192681_thumb-thumb-640xauto-39233.jpg" medium="image"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<img src="https://img.sfist.com/assets_c/2008/12/entry192681_thumb-thumb-640xauto-39233.jpg" alt="Mormon Allies to Support"><p>Now that we've gotten all the <a href="http://sfist.com/2008/11/10/no_on_8_folks_this_isnt_necessary.php">childish bile</a> out of our system, please check out these sites aiming to bring people together in the fight for gay marriage. These people deserve lavish praise and tons and tons of our attention if we're going to stop Prop. 8 from <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/12/opinion/12savage.html?_r=1&amp;em&amp;oref=slogin">snowballing out of control</a>.</p><ul>
<li>
<a href="http://mormonsformarriage.com/">Mormons for Marriage</a>:  A progressive LDS site that lets the world know that not all Mormons (LDS church members) oppose gay marriage. It also shares LDS church perspectives on both homosexuality and gay marriage with other Mormons who are meaningfully exploring the issues for the first time.</li>
<li>
<a href="http://www.lds4gaymarriage.org/">LDS 4 Gay Marriage</a>:  Discusses how same-sex marriage "is in no way contrary to the Constitution or official LDS doctrine (or the Bible)."  Those of you who agree or disagree, legally, logically or doctrinally, are invited to share thoughts, questions and concerns.</li>
<li>
<a href="http://signingforsomething.org/">Signing for Something</a>:  A grassroots effort of members and friends of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS) "united in their desire to speak their conscience on the matter of civil marriage." Here you can write a letter or sign a petition that "assures us that no person or group’s religious views are allowed to be binding on the public."</li>
<li>
<a href="http://stop8.org/.http://shameonlds.com/">Shame on LDS</a>:  A perturbed site full of reformed LDS members.</li>
<li>
<a href="http://shameonlds.com/">Seeking Forgiveness</a>:  Apologies from Mormons "who wish to find peace and reconciliation following the LDS Church's involvement in passing Proposition 8."</li>
</ul>

<p>If you come across any other sites like the above, feel free to stick them in the comments. Thanks for your support.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ask SFist: A Call for Constructive Prop. 8 Overturning Tactics]]></title><description><![CDATA[Is it out of your system yet? While all of this <a href="http://sfist.com/2008/11/11/fck_mormons_sign_removed.php">in-fighting</a>, <a href="http://sfist.com/2008/11/07/who_can_we_blame_for_prop_8s_pa...]]></description><link>https://sfist.com/2008/11/12/constructive_prop_8_culling/</link><guid isPermaLink="false">5c24278e44ad066cdcf47bf8</guid><category><![CDATA[SF News]]></category><category><![CDATA[boycott]]></category><category><![CDATA[gay]]></category><category><![CDATA[lesbian]]></category><category><![CDATA[march]]></category><category><![CDATA[marriage]]></category><category><![CDATA[mormon]]></category><category><![CDATA[poll]]></category><category><![CDATA[prop 8]]></category><category><![CDATA[proposition 8]]></category><category><![CDATA[protest]]></category><category><![CDATA[same sex]]></category><dc:creator><![CDATA[Brock Keeling]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:28:32 GMT</pubDate><media:content url="https://img.sfist.com/assets_c/2008/12/entry192496_thumb-thumb-640xauto-39101.jpg" medium="image"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<img src="https://img.sfist.com/assets_c/2008/12/entry192496_thumb-thumb-640xauto-39101.jpg" alt="Ask SFist: A Call for Constructive Prop. 8 Overturning Tactics"><p>Is it out of your system yet? While all of this <a href="http://sfist.com/2008/11/11/fck_mormons_sign_removed.php">in-fighting</a>, <a href="http://sfist.com/2008/11/07/who_can_we_blame_for_prop_8s_passin.php">blaming</a>, exempting, and naive attacks of reverse-discrimination (a chortle-inducing term if there ever was one) has been fun, let's get down to brass tacks, folks. SFist is putting out a call for and sites and/or organizations doing any of the following constructive things to help overturn gender and queer discrimination in the state of California. </p>

<ul>
<li>Reaching out to latino, black, and religious communities</li>
<li>Providing legal support -- to block prop 8, or to protect gay couples, or to promote other equality-themed legislation</li>
<li>Organizing lists of volunteers/voters who are passionate about the cause</li>
<li>Providing volunteers/voters with training/instruction for doing outreach of their own</li>
<li>Conducting research/focus groups to find out exactly what our opportunities/obstacles are, and where our efforts are having the greatest impact</li>
</ul>

<p>In all seriousness here, if you can give us some useful places and resources -- and not your bile, at least not in this particular post -- we would be most grateful. Please. Thanks.</p>

<p><em>Image design by Mark. Feel free to print out some of <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/stop8/">these posters</a> for yourself.</em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[California Musical Theatre Aristic Director Donated to Prop. 8]]></title><description><![CDATA[Queers are calling for a boycott of the <a href="http://www.californiamusicaltheatre.com">California Musical Theatre</a> -- at least according to the  -- after discovering that its artistic director, ...]]></description><link>https://sfist.com/2008/11/12/california_musical_theatre_aristic/</link><guid isPermaLink="false">5c24278f44ad066cdcf47c24</guid><category><![CDATA[SF News]]></category><category><![CDATA[boycott]]></category><category><![CDATA[gay]]></category><category><![CDATA[lesbian]]></category><category><![CDATA[march]]></category><category><![CDATA[marriage]]></category><category><![CDATA[mormon]]></category><category><![CDATA[poll]]></category><category><![CDATA[prop 8]]></category><category><![CDATA[proposition 8]]></category><category><![CDATA[protest]]></category><category><![CDATA[same sex]]></category><category><![CDATA[theater]]></category><dc:creator><![CDATA[Brock Keeling]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 09:09:22 GMT</pubDate><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Queers are calling for a boycott of the <a href="http://www.californiamusicaltheatre.com">California Musical Theatre</a> -- at least according to the  -- after discovering that its artistic director, Scott Eckern, <a href="http://www.goodasyou.org/">donated $1,000 to Prop. 8</a>.  Eckern has been with CMT for over 25 years.  Richard Lewis, the organization's executive producer, released this statement regarding the controversy: "Any political action or the opinion of Scott Eckern is not shared by California Musical Theatre. We have a long history of appreciation for the LGBT community and are truly grateful for their longstanding support."  </p>

<p>The California Musical Theatre, Sacramento's oldest theate group, recently produced a production of "Forever Plaid". If don't plan on boycotting the theater because of Eckern's discrimination donation against people in his own office, then do so because "Forever Plaid" is just an awful musical.</p>

<p><strong>Update</strong>: Eckern has <a href="http://cbs13.com/breakingnews/theater.boycott.proposition.2.862463.html">resigned</a>. </p><i><a href="http://www.sacbee.com/101/story/1387273.html">Sacramento Bee</a></i>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA["F*ck Mormons" Sign Removed]]></title><description><![CDATA[CBS 5's <a href="http://cbs5.com/local/sf.mormon.sign.2.862095.html">Joe Vazquez</a> reports that the big, pink <a href="http://sfist.com/2008/11/10/no_on_8_folks_this_isnt_necessary.php">"Fuck Mormon...]]></description><link>https://sfist.com/2008/11/11/fck_mormons_sign_removed/</link><guid isPermaLink="false">5c24278f44ad066cdcf47c39</guid><category><![CDATA[SF News]]></category><category><![CDATA[gay]]></category><category><![CDATA[lesbian]]></category><category><![CDATA[march]]></category><category><![CDATA[marriage]]></category><category><![CDATA[mormon]]></category><category><![CDATA[poll]]></category><category><![CDATA[prop 8]]></category><category><![CDATA[proposition 8]]></category><category><![CDATA[protest]]></category><category><![CDATA[same sex]]></category><dc:creator><![CDATA[Brock Keeling]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:23:27 GMT</pubDate><media:content url="https://img.sfist.com/assets_c/2008/12/entry192354_thumb-thumb-640xauto-39003.jpg" medium="image"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<img src="https://img.sfist.com/assets_c/2008/12/entry192354_thumb-thumb-640xauto-39003.jpg" alt=""F*ck Mormons" Sign Removed"><p>CBS 5's <a href="http://cbs5.com/local/sf.mormon.sign.2.862095.html">Joe Vazquez</a> reports that the big, pink <a href="http://sfist.com/2008/11/10/no_on_8_folks_this_isnt_necessary.php">"Fuck Mormons" banner</a> has been removed. While rumors of photoshopping swirled, CBS 5 managed to figure out that, yes, the sign was, in fact, real. </p>

<p>The sign went up at 606 Sanchez Street, made with strips of pink sheets of paper. The building's owner, Michael Thomas, admits to putting up the banner, but won't say why, <a href="http://sfist.com/2008/11/10/no_on_8_folks_this_isnt_necessary.php">exactly</a>, he took it down.</p>

<p>CBS 5 <a href="http://cbs5.com/local/sf.mormon.sign.2.862095.html">interviewed</a> Thomas, discussing such points as the Central Valley; disenfranchising Mormon culprits; SFist; and you, dear commenters.</p>

<blockquote>CBS 5: "You've been following the discussion on SFist. While some comments support you, others are saying, 'this isn't going to help.'"

<p>MT: "There are all kinds of assimilationists that are of the opinion that if we're only nicer, then maybe the Mormons and hate groups will come around. That ain't the way it works. Somebody needs to call these guys for what they are doing.<br>
I'm angry at their meddling in our affairs. It's particularly ironic about the Mormons doing this, given their past. Polygamy and all that good stuff. Then, they sit there and lay down the gauntlet. Now that they're big and they feel entitled to persecute a group that's weaker."</p>
</blockquote>

<p>While one might argue that gay marriage is also a form a assimilation, <a href="http://www.mattildabernsteinsycamore.com/">whatever that is</a>, that's splitting hairs at this point.  We thank Thomas for giving us much to discuss, not to mention figure out, in this most difficult time.  </p>

<p><strong>Update</strong>: Said banner was taken down because it was "made of paper and falling apart after the storm." SFist regrets the sensationalistic error.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Keith Olbermann, Hollywood Power Players Fume Over Prop. 8]]></title><description><![CDATA[Well, this is pretty powerful stuff. Last night, Keith Olberman's "Special Comment" was about Prop 8.]]></description><link>https://sfist.com/2008/11/11/keith_olbermann_and_hollywood_power/</link><guid isPermaLink="false">5c24279044ad066cdcf47c96</guid><category><![CDATA[SF News]]></category><category><![CDATA[gay]]></category><category><![CDATA[lesbian]]></category><category><![CDATA[march]]></category><category><![CDATA[marriage]]></category><category><![CDATA[mormon]]></category><category><![CDATA[poll]]></category><category><![CDATA[prop 8]]></category><category><![CDATA[proposition 8]]></category><category><![CDATA[protest]]></category><category><![CDATA[same sex]]></category><dc:creator><![CDATA[Brock Keeling]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:58:18 GMT</pubDate><content:encoded><![CDATA[<center><iframe height="339" width="425" src="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/27652443#27652443" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe></center>

<p>Well, this is pretty powerful stuff. Last night, Keith Olberman's "Special Comment" was about <a href="http://sfist.com/2008/11/05/how_did_prop_8_pass.php">Prop 8</a>. </p>

<p>Also, Kevin Sessums over at <a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2008-11-11/hollywoodrsquos-race/">the Daily Beast</a> talks to Hollywood power players David Geffen, Darren Star, Dan Jinks, and others fuming about Prop. 8, wishing they had done more.  Read Sessums article, right <a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2008-11-11/hollywoodrsquos-race/">here</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[SF Home Displays Large "F*ck Mormons" Banner]]></title><description><![CDATA[No-on-8 folks, this isn't necessary, is It?]]></description><link>https://sfist.com/2008/11/10/no_on_8_folks_this_isnt_necessary/</link><guid isPermaLink="false">5c242bbb44ad066cdcf69ab2</guid><category><![CDATA[SF News]]></category><category><![CDATA[gay]]></category><category><![CDATA[lesbian]]></category><category><![CDATA[march]]></category><category><![CDATA[marriage]]></category><category><![CDATA[mormon]]></category><category><![CDATA[poll]]></category><category><![CDATA[prop 8]]></category><category><![CDATA[proposition 8]]></category><category><![CDATA[protest]]></category><category><![CDATA[same sex]]></category><dc:creator><![CDATA[Brock Keeling]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:02:05 GMT</pubDate><media:content url="https://img.sfist.com/assets_c/2008/12/mormons sign in san francisco 1-thumb-640xauto-47791.jpghttp://img.sfist.com/assets_c/2008/12/entry192126_thumb-thumb-640xauto-38845.jpg" medium="image"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<img src="https://img.sfist.com/assets_c/2008/12/mormons sign in san francisco 1-thumb-640xauto-47791.jpghttp://img.sfist.com/assets_c/2008/12/entry192126_thumb-thumb-640xauto-38845.jpg" alt="SF Home Displays Large "F*ck Mormons" Banner"><p>No-on-8 folks, this isn't necessary.</p>

<p>Lord knows the other side, if you will, is just waiting for the stop <a href="http://sfist.com/2008/11/07/prop_8_protest_117_san_francisco.php">Prop. 8</a> movement to use its salad fork during the entree course, so let's keep venom such as the above -- found in Noe Valley, shot on Sanchez Street from the Castro -- to a minimum. </p>

<p>Really, this is almost as hateful as the people who voted for <a href="http://sfist.com/2008/11/05/how_did_prop_8_pass.php">Prop. 8</a>.  And it's unfair to LDS ilk who actively <a href="http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_10890609">fought against Prop. 8</a>.</p>

<p>Or, do you think otherwise? And... why?</p>

<p><strong>Update</strong>: The sign has been <a href="http://cbs5.com/local/sf.mormon.sign.2.862095.html">removed</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[HA HA HA Thousands of Gays Killed in the Holocaust HO HO HO HA HA HA HA]]></title><description><![CDATA[The people pushing Prop 8 have their heads so far up their asses they've turned into mobius strips.]]></description><link>https://sfist.com/2008/10/25/ha_ha_ha_thousands_of_gays_killed_i/</link><guid isPermaLink="false">5c242ae144ad066cdcf62d9f</guid><category><![CDATA[misc]]></category><category><![CDATA[concentration camp]]></category><category><![CDATA[dub]]></category><category><![CDATA[election]]></category><category><![CDATA[equality]]></category><category><![CDATA[gay]]></category><category><![CDATA[hitler]]></category><category><![CDATA[holocaust]]></category><category><![CDATA[marriage]]></category><category><![CDATA[mormon]]></category><category><![CDATA[persecution]]></category><category><![CDATA[prop 8]]></category><category><![CDATA[YouTube]]></category><dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Baume]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:24:54 GMT</pubDate><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><br>
The people pushing Prop 8 have their heads so far up their asses they've turned into mobius strips.</p>

<p>This is what you're fighting when you fight Prop 8: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoZXtn0RIjE">a video that connects gay marriage with Hitler</a>. Wait, WHAT? Oh, it's a joke! You know! Funny! HA! HA! But <a href="http://yesonprop8.blogspot.com/2008/10/blog-post.html">as commenters observe</a>, you can't mention Hitler and homos in the same breath without remembering what ACTUALLY happened in World War Two: fifty thousand gays imprisoned, with estimates of around 10,000 gays killed in concentration camps. HA! HA! HA!</p>

<p>We do adore offensive humor when it works, because it is so impressive an accomplishment. Jokes about dictators are a tempting challenge because the author must attain a level of humor sufficient to overcome the audience's horror. For example, the over-the-top relationship between Satan and Saddam on South Park is initially shocking, but we breathe a sigh of happy relief when it becomes outlandish -- just as we do during the gleeful "Springtime for Hitler." But for satire to be permitted to land its blow, it must be both devastatingly funny and devastatingly true. It must accomplish, as Henri Bergson said, a "temporary anesthesia of the heart."</p>

<p>This video, on the other hand, fails to land a single joke, fails to ring true, and so fails to numb its pain. The video is not only guilty of being unfunny, as are most of these Hitler re-dubs; it specifically evokes the inescapable real-life persecution and murder of thousands of gays in the Holocaust. By reminding us of Hitler's extermination campaign, it invites an elephant into the room and then abandons it. And the elephant is so massive, so horrifying, that it defies comprehension. </p>

<p>It is the cruelest of memories that could possibly have been evoked in this campaign. And it is beyond shameful. It is evil.</p>

<p>We certainly don't want to join this video in issuing a surrender via <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwins_law">Godwin</a>. But by evoking Hitler's murder of thousands of gays -- a genocide motivated by religious convictions -- it is impossible not to observe which side of this argument is more vulnerable to unflattering historical comparison. We would not stoop to insinuate such a comparison ourselves; it is a comparison that, through their actions, has simply insinuated itself.</p>]]></content:encoded></item></channel></rss>