Questions remain about what, exactly, was said the night of October 22 when San Francisco Mayor Daniel Lurie got on the phone with President Trump to encourage him to call off his federal agent surge. But the mayor's office says there's nothing being kept from the public.

After a three-member panel of the city’s Sunshine Ordinance Task Force ruled in December that Mayor Daniel Lurie had acted illegally in shielding records from the public regarding his October 22 phone call with Trump, the larger task force body has now concurred, sending the matter to the city's Ethics Commission.

The Sunshine Ordinance Task Force voted 8-1 Wednesday, as Mission Local reports, to send the matter of getting Lurie's office to release the full record to the Ethics Commission.

Lurie had previously claimed attorney-client privilege in keeping records of the phone call private.

It's not clear if the call was recorded, or if a transcript of the conversation exists. But the mayor's team seems to be saying that nothing like this exists, and the only things that are being withheld are documents relating to legal advice that Lurie received about the executive directive he signed earlier that day laying out the city's preparations for this planned federal deployment.

"We’re at the point now where it’s simply, ‘Documents are believed to exist, so they must exist,’ but that is not the case,” says Dexter Darmali, the mayor’s legislative and ethics secretary, speaking to Mission Local. “The Sunshine Ordinance does not require the city to produce documents if they do not exist."

Is it possible that such an important and consequential exchange with the president went unrecorded? And if so, why didn't they simply say that when the first request was made for the records back in late October?

A note on Lurie's schedule for the days shows that the phone call lasted, or was scheduled to last, 25 minutes, from 7:30 pm to 7:55 pm. Back in October, the SF Public Press attempted to get further details or documentation, and the mayor's office declined to provide anything further.

The issue is no doubt a political liability for Lurie, who has both avoided badmouthing Trump in public, and does not want to seem to chummy with him either.

We know that on the night of October 22, as federal agents were already staging at the Coast Guard base in Alameda, Trump spoke to local billionaire CEOs Marc Benioff and Jensen Huang either before or after his phone call with Lurie, and they helped to convince him to call off the dogs and let the Bay Area alone for the moment.

Trump said in a Truth Social post that his "friend" Marc Benioff told him that the "future of San Francisco is great," and he believed him, for the moment.

In recent weeks, as he has plenty of other more urgent fires to deal with, Trump again invoked San Francisco, suggesting that he would still considering taking some sort of law-enforcement action here in the future — possibly because of a prime-time special by Bill O'Reilly on NewsNation that rehashed years-old complaints about street chaos on the streets.

Trump said of Lurie last week, "He's trying. He's doing okay. But we could do much better. We could make it a lot safer than it is. San Francisco. What a great city was. A great city. Could quickly become a great city again. But, you know, they're going very slowly."

Previously: Lurie’s Office Unwilling to Share Details of His Call With Trump That Called Off Federal Troop Deployment

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