We just came across this amusing post via The Muni Diaries' counterpart in commute-blogging, The BART Diaries. Apparently this blogger *really* hates Muni, and here are her highly generalized observations as to how Muni riders have fewer manners than BART riders. She has seen/heard Muni riders:
1) Smoking marijuana right on the station platform
2) Spitting on the platform
3) Blocking the doorway
4) Talking extremely loudly on cell phones
5) Loudly telling offensive stories about drugs and sex
6) Urinating or otherwise soiling train
7) Putting feet on seats
8) Letting animals sit on seats
9) Calling me a "fucking bitch" and threatening to kick me when I asked the man to pick up his dog.
She was also appalled that a police officer refused to help her after the incident described in #9.
We believe we can cite having witnessed all of the above on BART on at least one occasion, except perhaps letting an animal sit on a seat or being called a fucking bitch, so we don't think BART is all that prim and proper either. Have you smelled that carpet lately?



What can I say? I'm just an animalistic scumbag.
ummm...welcome to san francisco?
I commuted from Oakland to SF for four years on BART with very little experience on MUNI. These days, now as an SF resident for 4 years, i rarely ride BART and usually take MUNI and i think there's absolutely no comparison, MUNI is MUCH worse and scarier than BART.
MUNI has way more assholes, way more pee, way more fights, and i feel like i'm in danger much more than i ever did on BART.
Just last thursday on MUNI i witnessed two thugs beat the shit out of a guy because they were trying to steal his iPhone.
i take MUNI every day and there's simply more scum on MUNI than BART. it doesn't stop me from taking either, but....i find it laughable anyone would say BART is as scary as MUNI (and no, i haven't forgotten Oscar Grant).
I agree. I step into the BART area of one of the shared stations and I don't even feel like I'm in SF anymore. I feel like I'm in a city run by adults.
It's an odd comparison, really. To me a better comparison would be Muni and AC Transit. BART always struck me as more akin to CalTrain.
Yep. BART is a commuter rail and MUNI is a city bus system. Totally different ridership demographics. And during commute hours in the tunnels, when MUNI functions like a real commuter subway, ridership tends to be just fine.
Caltrain is, by far, the most civil and well-kept Bay Area public transit agency. Gamedays excepted.
Why does riding Muni always feel like being taken hostage by rude, dirty, and threatening people while everyone else just looks the other way — including the police? BART doesn’t feel that way.
Yeah, this BART patron is Emily Fucking Post.
BART has its moments, but nothing MUNI has can compete with the unfettered joy felt when a simple shift of a few inches blocks a line cutter's access to the train.
it's the little things.
She just described an idyllic, uneventful commute on MUNI.
Princess Prissy Pants left out:
-Nail clipping
-Pumpkin/Sunflower seeds spit all over the floor
-Angry Chinese women shoving to get on/off the bus
-Fast food wrappers and half eaten food on the seat/floor/window
-Teens raised by rabid vermin pushing and shoving one another into people
-Psychotic/Methadone/Homeless/Alcoholic/Junkies stinking up the joint with their stench and crazy blabber
-Aforementioned nutjobs puking on the floor
Somebody pack some PB&J's with the crust removed, a chocolate milk and get Dorothy on an Amtrak train back to Kansas.