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Speaking of the Inner Sunset...
The Mission and SOMA are the new Marina and North Beach. That is to say, they're dead. Finished. Crashed. Burned. No survivors. The Avenues are in, the Streets are out. Because, really, it's all about fog-encased neighborhoods now.
But which fog-encased hood reigns supreme? One hood has The Blackthorn, but the other has Gaspare's Pizza. While one houses Cajun Pacific, the other, um, gets to call Sea Cliff a neighbor. Take our poll to let us know which western San Francisco neighborhood is, in fact, the best. We will not rest until this escalates into a rumble between old Chinese ladies and big Russian men in Golden Gate Park.
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Love some Cajun Pacific. Outer Sunset also has Outerlands and Pizza Place on Noriega, but it's still a wee bit too far for even me.
The Richmond and The Sunset need to band together...people people, why are we fighting, WE ARE ALL AVENUES!
Oh man. Cajun Pacific. I need to go back soon.
No love for Parkside?
All that really matters is that the convenient grid layout makes it really easy to give each and every block its own four-to-six letter cutesey Candyland name!
How do you form the candyland name?
The sunset has more stuff. The Richmond has more soul.
I’m kind of biased on the topic, but I love The Outer Sunset and I’m perfectly OK with it being ignored by the rest of San Francisco. There’s free curbside parking, people can actually visit you, even spend the night, and not have to worry about their car being towed in the morning. We have Burrito Express on Taraval, Senories Pizza on 19th, and my favorite sushi place actually delivers within 20 mins.
Also, did you know that the guy who built most of The Outer Sunset, Henry Doelger, made his money as a kid selling beer and bathtub gin at his tamale stand in Golden Gate Park? His dad died when he was 12 years old and that’s what he had to do to support his family. He later funneled the profits from that endeavor to buy real estate and build up The Outer Sunset, and became one of the godfathers of this thing we now call the suburbs.
The Outer Sunset has got to be one of the oldest suburbs on the west coast, and one of the weirdest. I constantly find new quirky homes like this one all the time –
http://theoutersunset.com/2009/02/03/the-friendship-bench/
Agreed. Ample parking day and night, Seniore's pizza until 4am, and underground taxis that'll take you anywhere for cheap.
as mayor of the inner sunset i am here-in renaming this district to the "Inner AWESOME". you can continue referring to the outer sunset as the "outer awful".
This debate is taking place only to distract you into not noticing that someone is rummaging through your recycling container.
Those are my neighbors.
Inner Richmond > Outer Richmond > Inner Sunset > Outer Sunset.
That's just the way it's always been and will be.
N-Judah > 38 Geary
Presciently fled the TenderNob for the Inner Sunset back in the mid-'90s, suffering friends' lame jokes about having to renew passports in order to come visit. Now they're all envious.
Do you set your clock and hour ahead or an hour behind out there? I can never remember.
Who needs clocks? I use an hourglass. (Used to have a sundial, but it never seemed to work right...)
I was more well rested and far less stressed when I lived at 47th & Cabrillo. I'll always have a soft spot for the Outer Richmond.
Love falling asleep to the sound of the waves & foghorns! (South of GGP in my case though.)
i'm a big fan of the outer richmond. sutro heights park and the whole "GG recreation area" up there is really pretty. sutro baths, cliff house, camera obscura!
Outer Richmond FTW!!!
speaking as someone who has lived in the sunset since 81, there is ONLY ONE SUNSET. Fuck this upper inner outer lower crap. Starts at the water, ends on stanyan, bordered by sloat and lincoln way. The End.
Do we really hate our city so much that we must rename little areas as a 'neighborhood' every 2 years so they seem like something new? They will still have the same crime, the same homeless, the same garbage and the same graffiti, regardless of adding some new directional definition.
i don't know about you, but InSu, OutSu, InRi and OutRi have a certain snap to them.
Even though you are kidding I still think you should be slapped with a trout for even mentioning this.
If it helps anyone decide, Frank Chu and his sign were hanging out at the corner of 9th and Lincoln (Inner Sunset) this morning. No joke.
As someone who lived at 25th and Lincoln. There is nowhere on earth more glorious than Golden Gate Park on a Sunny day. Those 4 days a years are fantastic!
I am only kidding a little bit. The cheap food that you can find in the Sunset plus that fact that I had a yard made it fantastic. I still go by to visit my old apartment since my best friend.roommate still lives there. I miss the old place.
Doesn't outer sunset have idian pizza? That's got my vote.
i voted for inner sunset presuming that has the 9th and irving district, pan handle, academy, de young, etc...
no contest!
The panhandle is not inner sunset. And the CAS and De Young are probably in neutral territory.
I agree with you in general, but just to be annoying I'm pretty sure the DeYoung is a little bit closer to the Richmond.
Indian…damn trying to leave comments while riding Bart.
Well naturally I'm going to vote for the neighborhood I live in the center of (inner sunset) but to me, the Richmond and the Sunset are like related, each united in that we're not the Marina or the Mission, but unique in their own ways.
Plus I take the 44 to the Inner Richmond at least 2x or more a week. There's a cool Chinese restaurant on Balboa and 6th, the safeway there is easier to get to, and they inner richmond has some cool stores. the Inner Sunset is going through a bit of transition as some restaurants have closed and new ones are replacing them.
bashful bull too
Amen.
That place is one of my favorite dive restaurants. My girlfriend loves the make your own omelets. I love the burger special, Monday through Friday. Handmade beef patty (that’s a dying art form in this city) fries and a shake for $5.75 (I believe) Best deal in town.
Chicken fried steak, hash browns, two eggs, gravy and two pancakes. Enough food for a week, really. I love that place. The OutSu gets a handful of points for the Bashful Bull, Too.
The Richmond all the way! Food alone tips the balance: not just Gaspare's but the spot where you can get custom-made sausage, across the street. Numbing Spicy specials at Spices! 2 and Numbing Stinky specials at Spices! 1, a mere block away. The guy at Big Toine's who smokes KILLER ribs that you can take to the beach. The Balboa. The Ocean Beach Safeway, with everything you need for bonfires PLUS it always has parking. No fewer than ten dessert cafes. Irish breakfast at that pub next to the bakery, where you'll get Belle and Sebastian and maybe rugby players with your "black pudding." And Lily, the nicest lady in SF, who'll bring you amazing orange chicken over at Hunan Cafe 2. Oh, and not only My Tofu House but also Han Il Kwan... can 4 busloads a day of Korean tourists be wrong?
Then there's Skeeball at the Buckshot, arguably the best view in the city up at Sutro Heights park, and some seriously crazy omelettes at the Seal Rock Inn. Not to mention Green Apple. And the fog in the Richmond is gorgeous, not like in the rest of the city: it's rolling and thick and comes with foghorns in two octaves.
Crap, I moved from the Richmond to Oakland and now I'm missing it all over again.
which option does the area around green apple books fall into? I like this little strip
That would be Inner Richmond
Foghorns make the outer richmond win!
It's strange actually. The first houses I lived in when I was born were out in the Richmond (10th, 30th, and 20th!) but then moved out to the Ingleside (SF's other forgotten neighborhood!)
After a stint in Noe, my wife and I moved back to the Outer Richmond.
The strange thing is how many of our friends have been moving out here too. We'll get in touch with friends we hadn't seen for a while, and find out they live 10 blocks from us.
It seems that all the natives I know are out in the Avenues, while all the transplants go to SOMA/Mission/Marina, etc.
I won't take your fog, but I'll take your food.
does anyone still call the area west of 19th ave and south of sloat, lakeshore?
i lived on inverness for a few years. very charming part of the hood.
Who makes this crap up?