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This year marks the 40th anniversary of the peace-, love- and mud-fest known as Woodstock, and organizers of a free, commemorative concert in San Francisco are being threatened with a very un-peaceful and unloving cease and desist order from Woodstock Ventures, a New York-based organization that claims to hold the right to the Woodstock name. As SF Weekly's All Shook Down blog reports, the SF organizers do not plan to comply with the order, and are, as of now, going ahead with planning the October 25th concert, claiming that San Francisco has as much of a right to celebrate as any city -- with 18 of the groups who played at the 1969 festival hailing from San Francisco. As the Weekly puts it, "It's never a good thing when hippies fight. Especially aging hippies." We hope they work it all out, and we also hope Grace Slick will be there.
Also this summer, we can look forward to Ang Lee's Taking Woodstock, which tells the story of the concert from the point of view of Elliot Tiber, who inadvertantly played a role in making the concert what it was. Below, the trailer -- the film stars Demitri Martin and Emile Hirsch.
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Michael Lang of Woodstock Inc. is no hippie. He is the worst kind of capitalist, one that has repeatedly subjected kids to inhuman conditions to make a buck. Read any report of Woodstocks 94 or 99 if you want confirmation.
If there's anything worth celebrating, it's the music itself, not a calendar date or a picture of a million people in one place at one time. I respect Country Joe & Barry Melton but they seem to be fighting for something not worth the effort - the opportunity to keep Lang's trademarked "brand" alive. I'd be happy to see it die.
I liked Neil Young's take on Woodstock personally - a huge piece of shit. Literally, the physical leavings of some kind of spirit that made the event come together - and then moved on, to somewhere other than the festival ground. The event itself is just the waste product. So all you really have, is a bunch of people standing around looking at a piece of shit. "You wouldn't expect the THING THAT SHIT to go back and SIT IN THE SHIT, would you?"
I'm pretty amped for this and Shutter Island but the trailer's a bit of a boner.
Those hippies sure do litter. I wonder if they picked up after themselves. Right.
You know what aggravates me more than the BabyBoom Generation? The Decemberists. But man, Boomers just get on my last nerve. They've been pretty much good for nothing, but insist on letting everyone know how awesome they were back in the 60's. Ok, fine, the music was lovely, but if you were in your 20's in the 1960's, that puts you in your 30's in the 1970's, in your 40's in the 1980's, which means you were totalllllllly integrated into the system during Reagan and allowed all that shit (like Prop 13 a couple years before) to happen. You were in your 50's during the 1990's which means that you were probably a major voting bloc that allowed Prop 187 to pass. By the time the 2000's rolled around, you were fat, entitled, self-congratulatory, blabbing on about that one night when the Jefferson Airplane totally blew your mind, refi-ing your house to buy a McMansion and an SUV, and then complaining about the kids these days because they can't find China on the map, but you don't want to tax yourself so that the schools can get that map.
But Woodstock, man! You had to be there, man! We were fighting the Man, man!
Actually, no, you weren't. In all the civil rights marches I've seen on TV, those protesters were your parents' age and your precious Vietnam protests didn't end the war--the Vietnamese Communists did.
And in terms of hippie music, $10 says my De La Soul can kick your Mamas and the Papas' ass.
Hear hear! There are few things more worthless in this world than Boomers - foul, conceited, self-absorbed creatures mired in a never ending stream of increasingly more sanitized nostalgia. I loathe Boomers.
I am outraged that they plan on commemorating this cultural abortion here. Let it go, already! The last thing we need is to gather together a bunch of smug old hippies. Imagine the liability issues. They might fall down, break a hip. I think I'll start a grass roots movement to deny them their concert permit. No hippies!
... what do you have against the Decemberists?
Decemborists comment = pure genius
nicely slipped in.
Just look at network TV. It's a parade of the most venal advertising for problems that old boomer has with his dick. Can't piss straight, can't get a boner, got a problem with your ass, it's all there in prime time. Just crash your Harley, shred your Tommy Bahama shirt with splinters from your own broken limbs and stop taking all our fucking money. The most hated generation ever.
The boomers as a group are some of the most morally bankrupt, self centered people to ever walk the planet. Before this group came along, ethics was not something taught in schools, it's what you did. Energy crisis, housing bubble, two wars, financial crisis, record unemployment - all brought to you by the same greedy, self centered jackasses. If you need further proof, go stand in front of just about any Starbucks in the city and watch the pathetic, entitled asshats double park their SUV's while they run in to get their morning fix.
Let them have their final moment in the mud soaked grass before they all get sent into the nursing home and start dropping like flies. I'm long on publicly traded funeral homes.
To be fair, the people I see double-parking their SUVs to run into Starbucks are self-entitled asshats in their 30's. I rarely see boomers do this, but maybe I just haven't been hanging out in front of the right Starbucks.
We'll do a separate thread for those bottom feeders and hold a tire slashing party on Union or Polk Street another time. For now, we crap on the much deserving boomers.
The punks who ride their fixies to Ritual are soooooo much better.
The Tribal Stomp concert in the park a couple years back was put on by the same group organizing this woodstock 40th concert...it was a great day! Hopefully the event will go on as planned, I'd love to do it again!
I don't disagree that the Boomers have/had their problems, but X/Y/whatever are just as bad.
Which should come as no surprise, considering who raised them.
Woodstock: 40th Anniversary Extravaganza!
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Hippies are the most money-grubbing untrustworthy people on earth. Just sayin'. Let's celebrate. Yeah!
Damn. There's some serious hate going on here today. I don't see how harping on an entire generation of people, my mom and dad included (who happen to be two of the most responsible, generous people I've ever met), will undo any of the errors of the last 3 decades.
People are people and will live their lives through whatever social or geo-political context there happens to be. And, unless they're stupid or homocidal, they'll always try and live up to (their rendition of) high moral standards. And anyway, critisism of the boomers is a hypocrasy since our kids will likely have some words to say about us once they can see it all in retrospect: hello W. Bush voters/Iraq invasion supporters.
Two things:
We are not having any kids so your last point all mooty-tooty.
Of course they are our parents, but the generation taken as a whole gets a massive FAIL in the history books. Compared to their parents, who fought Fascism, suffered from polio, and had to endure the close-harmony singing of Andrews Sisters, they come out looking like a bunch of hypocritical, naive, dangerous, whiners who just don't know when it's time shut the fuck up. The election of Obama should have sent them a message that their time is up, their power is draining and the generations coming behind them will not be sucked dry.
Really, you need a Hoverbout spazz chariot paid for by Medicaid? Sorry boomer, get a stick like your grandparents did.
Hey, now- let's leave the Andrew Sisters out of this.
The answer is simple, really: everybody sucks and we all deserve to die, OK?
Jeez, can't we all just generalize every now and then and bag on somebody? Sure, there are exceptions, but they are just that. The boomer generation is filled with hypocrisy, from beginning to end. Don't trust anyone over 30 - until they all hit 30. Tune in, turn on and drop out - until you need to go for the drug test to take the Bar Exam. Ever wonder why so many lawyers are from the boomer generation? They knew the treachery and platitudes of the people around them. In other words, allow me to screw you before you get the opportunity to screw me. Nobody knows that better than a lawyer.
When there are so many fine examples of corporate greed and thievery displayed by members of a single generation it gives one pause for thought and well founded, grounded criticism.
BTW, you used the words, "Bush", "Iraq" and "Rendition" all in the same paragraph. And I'm pretty far from a spelling or grammar nazi but you blew some pretty easy ones there.
There's some serious hate going on here today.
Just today?
Okay, another boomer FAIL: Learning me to spell.
I have no doubt that your parents are great people. So are mine (my parents actually immigrated here though, so I can't really bunch them in with the "woodstock" crowd. Though one of my mom's friends who was at Woodstock told my mom that she'd have made a great hippie, which aggravates me on so many levels). I know there are lots of people in thier 50's, 60's who actually lived up to the hype of their generation. But I think what everyone here is saying, on the whole, that hype? That's exactly what it was.
When people talk about generations, of course we don't include each individual. But I do feel that there are general themes that tend to emerge from each. The Greatest Generation (TM) spend thier childhood in the Depression, and when they came of age, fought or supported the fight in WWII and Korea. Then they came home, went to college or worked in a factory. And they don't really talk about it all that much--they let the youngin's do all the praising.
But their children, the Boomers, they yapyapyap. And the way they have, in general, chosen to live thier lives or structure society when they were handed the reins is so contradictory. Their kids, us, we see right through them.
The X/Y generation has huge potential to fuck it all up too. But that still remains to be seen. As for Bush/Iraq, when Bush was elected in 2000, we were in our teens or 20's (and no one I knew voted for him) or maybe not even of voting age yet. Just like I don't give the hippies credit for the civil rights movement of the 60's, I can't really blame us for Bush (they weren't of age at that time and neither were we). The hippies have to own up the 70's, 80's, 90's and the 00's. But they'd much rather play back the 60's on constant loop--while eating $18 salads.
Hahahha…………what a bunch of whiney bitches - because we all know that the Boomer’s era music, from the hippy bands to 70s punk, rules the universe
yeah, let's all hold our breath for such timeless drivel as:
On the road for forty days,
Last night in little rock put me in a haze.
Sweet, sweet connie -- doin her act,
She had the whole show and thats a natural fact.
Up all night with freddy king,
I got to tell you pokers his thing.
A-booze n ladies keep me right,
As long as we can make it to the show tonight.
Chorus
Were an american band.
Were an american band.
Were coming to your town, well help you party it down.
Were an american band.
Four young chaquitas in omaha,
Was waitin for the band to return from the show.
Feelin good, feelin right, its saturday night,
The hotel detective -- he was out-a-sight.
Now, these fine ladies, they had a plan,
They was out to meet the boys in the band.
They said, come on, dudes, lets get it on,
And we proceeded to tear that hotel down.
that's the worst you can do?
c'mon - let's hear how great music has been during the last 25 years
Smack My Bitch Up. Case closed.
try again - Kool Keith, who the vocal line is sampled from, was born in 1964
But "Give the Drummer Some", the song from which the aforementioned lyric comes from, was recorded in 1988.
I wonder how many boomer dad's would mind this 30-something yr old male crooning this classic outside their daughter's (or son's) bedroom window.
If I could fly, you'd call Chris Hansen and have my pervy ass arrested.
Benny Mardones indeed. Please, have a cookie.
She's just sixteen years old
Leave her alone, they say
Separated by fools
Who don't know what love is yet
But I want you to know -
CHORUS:
If I could fly
I'd pick you up
I'd take you into the night
And show you a love
Like you've never seen - ever seen.
It's like having a dream
Where nobody has a heart
It's like having it all
And watching it fall apart
And I would wait till the end of time for you
And do it again, it's true
I can't measure my love
There's nothing to compare it to
But I want you to know
CHORUS:
If I could fly
I'd pick you up
I'd take you into the night
And show you a love
Like you've never seen - ever seen.
It is a shame to see what has become of the boomers as well as subsequent generations. WHERE HAS THE PEACE & LOVE WENT??? HAS IT STOPPED WARS, or even the global elite from raping and pillaging the US? It has not... In fact, you will find very few enlightened people among this generation. A ruthless drug culture has emerged and many of the leaders of this once dissident people have done nothing but mislead the public.
It also amazes me what "conspiratorial" info can be right under a boomer's nose without any notice. The main producer of Woodstock was a Kohen (a Jew who is a direct male descendant of the Biblical Aaron, brother of Moses) and nobody seems to mention it, let alone realize the implications.
Dear Boomer:
You got: Good, safe high schools
We got: Metal detectors
You got: Free college
We got: Student debt for life
You got: Corporate pensions and SS
We got: Worthless 410k's and no SS
You got: Free sex
We got: AIDS
You got: JFK
We got: GWB
The list just goes on and on. Thanks for fucking the world because you were happy to take and never to give.
Boomers had CSN&Y (who were high on coke and dicks to one another even back then - ok maybe not Neil which is why he never fit in and is still a decent person - then again 1 in 4?) and "Teach Your Children Well" - which they have clearly FAILED at doing. They were all busy having careers, lives and trying to be as good as their parents were at raising kids without all the 'raising the kids' part.
My parents were pretty good at the old model; dad went to work and made a decent paycheck, mom stayed at home and took care of the three kids. You children without a daddy AND mommy present were already fucked and we all knew that way back when - even as kids. Sorry, it's true and the vast majority of you are either still in therapy or just pissed off at the world because your childhood was hijacked by self centered, egotistical people who were told that to have any worth as humans, they had to procreate and become parents.
Hopefully, I've just saved half of you from your outrageous co-pays for therapy or launched a few more into it.
You show me 99% of the married, two parent (gay or straight), affluent families in the Bay Area and I will show you their children who are deprived of basic, old school, family life, living with Mexican nannies and scheduled time with their sperm and egg donors. Mommy doesn't know how to work the stove or a pan and daddy doesn't know that mommy is riding the pool boy while he is at work. Vice versa.
The other 1% are 'daddy made bank on the IPO' and can stay home all day long while mommy sings lullabies. And, well, wouldn't we all love to be in that percentile.
You children without a daddy AND mommy present were already fucked and we all knew that way back when - even as kids. Sorry, it's true and the vast majority of you are either still in therapy or just pissed off at the world because your childhood was hijacked by self centered, egotistical people who were told that to have any worth as humans, they had to procreate and become parents.
This is such incredible bullshit, I hope you just wrote this at the end of an all-night coke bender.