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Briefly touched upon last week when the final batch of Prop 8 donor names unfurled, Utah citizens and the LDS Church spent more on getting Prop. 8 passed than previously known. According to the Salt Lake Tribune:
Utahans and the LDS Church spent significantly more than previously reported on last-minute efforts to push passage of California's ban of same-sex marriage, newly filed financial disclosures show.
Donations from as many as 1,025 individual and businesses in Utah to both sides of the Proposition 8 campaign totaled about $3.8 million, according to new filings with California's secretary of state, with more than 70 percent going to groups supporting the successful measure.
This is unnerving. And, most disconcerting, not at all surprising.
The California State Supreme court will begin hearing arguments on Prop 8 starting March 5. Be sure to watch it all go down at 9am on the California Channel. (Also, hey, no way, we have a California Channel! Who knew?)
Check out Stop8.org for comprehensive coverage about civil marriage equality in California.
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Has the Mormon Church lost their tax exemption status in California yet or what? Why isn't there a law to prevent financial contributions to campaigns from anyone who isn't a registered voter in California? Should Utah really be able to influence California state law? Let's rethink this just a little .. I'd say the same should go for candidates ... even if that does cut off DNC/RNC/whateva money.
Ah #1, but if only the rule of law actually ruled the law.
If our government enforces the law and tells they LDS they are no longer tax-exempt, lots of sheep-like followers of the LDS will "mobilize" and pick on the politicians who direct our government, even though they are only doing their jobs.* The politicians want to keep their jobs, so they'll keep quiet and hope the mindless sheep leave them alone. Mob rules and democracy sucks.
This is a common problem when you have so many elected officials at so many levels of government. Ironically, to enforce a fair democracy, you need less elected positions.
* (The non-sheeplike LDS followers are already questioning their loyalties to a church so filled with hate-mongers, so they won't be offended by what I just said).
Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? It ain't over now!
Cause when the going gets tough, the tough get going. Who's with me?!!
Where's the spirit? Where's the guts? This could be the greatest night of our lives, instead you're going to let it be the worst. Not me, I'm not going to take this!
Screw Burning Man you closed minded, comfort laden, defeatist freaks. Let's go to UTAH and get prostitution legalized! We definitely have far more money than they do and if everyone here stayed home just one night a week, we could pull together a few million to spend on getting prostitution legalized.
You know, because local morals and religious values are what we value the most.
When we're done, we'll bring electricity to the Amish!
(just kidding, the Amish are pretty cool people.)
$3,700 bucks each?! WTF! (I used a calculator)
As a Utahan (correct spelling), I'd like to say that... Lumping Utahans in with LDS members is incorrect.
Half of the state isn't even LDS, however, LDS members are encouraged to participate in politics, whereas the rest of us... really don't care. That's why it's a red state.
When living in downtown Salt Lake City and commuting to Sugarhouse everyday, I'd have to say that the general consensus would seem that most of us don't care about Prop 8 -- whether it stays or goes, and in fact, those who do care are so adamant that gay marriage should be allowed.
The LDS church is a minority in Utah. Stop lumping us in with those idiots. Also, I have seen a lot of protesting and boycott Utah things, which is BS. You really want to ruin a state's tourist economy (snow/ski, Sundance) simply because two guys can't get married? Riiight, that's logical.
Find someone else to put the blame on.
Also, a msg to RobInSF who posted above - You're a numpty. The Germans didn't bomb Pearl Harbor, it was the Japanese. Are you stupid? And legalizing prostitution won't do anything (payback is petty anyways, and besides, can't you think of anything better...?). There would be no market for it. There is only one city in Utah and it's pretty clean (Provo doesn't count, bunch of southern fairies down there), that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
Jesus christ people... Get over it. There's always next year. Stop blaming those who aren't responsible, or more frankly, who could care less because there are bigger things in life.
The LDS church is a minority in Utah.
58 percent isn't a minority, though judging from the rest of your rant it's understandable that you'd get such a basic thing wrong. I do hear the healthcare is quite good there, so perhaps you can schedule an outpatient trip to remedy that rectal-cranial inversion.
Also, a msg to RobInSF who posted above - You're a numpty. The Germans didn't bomb Pearl Harbor, it was the Japanese. Are you stupid?
If you haven't seen "Animal House" yet, you're the one who's stupid, stupid.
I didn't get the animal house reference either. But I guess I'm kinda stupid, stupid.
Do people really use bad 80's movies as rhetorical references? Really? Seriously? Is that like a *thing* now?
Are we really that dumbed down? No Lincoln, Jefferson, Rosevelt, even Churchill, Thatcher, Mother Theresa, or Socrates useful here? Holy WTFF!
"Stop blaming those who aren't responsible, or more frankly, who could care less because there are bigger things in life."
a) what
b) it must be nice to think the worlds revolves around your priorities.
c) it sounds like this is a topic on which you're both native and confused. feel free to ask questions.
thanks!