travin

Tue, 30 Dec 2008 14:08:52 -0800

here's a really good article, deconstructing the whole no on 8 thing. http://www.publiceye.org/magazine/v23n4/proposition_8.html

Chris Daley

Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:53:54 -0800

Matt - great job with the update about where things stand. There is a lot of great thinking here about how to move forward (combine netroots with grassroots, be clear, communicate, etc). There are also some suggestions that seem perfectly logical but are, in my experience, really difficult to implement (agree on goals, shoot down bad ideas, focus on particular states, etc). In practice, it's nearly impossible to get 10 LGBT folks, much less a national movement, to agree on goals. And, obviously, one person's "bad idea" is someone else's silver bullet. And, some of these ideas are ones that the No on 8 campaign implemented and then got flak for implementing (said flak may have been about the way they were implemented, but, trust me, any implementation by definition is going to piss someone off). None of this is to say that folks shouldn't try to do these things, but the places where you're likely to be most successful are the individual skills and infrastruce building rather than the larger unified goals/good idea defining. Best, Chris

SFist: Prop 8 Protest-Fatigue and Message-Dilution to Continue in 2009

travin

Chris Daley