SFist: Quote of the Day: C.W. Nevius Tells Off Web Log Writers

PoKonrad

Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:36:15 -0800

Thank you, San Francisco, for 25 comments of awesome. Can we petition the Chronicle for the 2009 Annual Layoffs to begin with Nevius? As for the Chronicle as a news source, it's really pretty damned weak. It covers San Francisco politics & issues the way Us Weekly covers the social realities of the American people.

Brock Keeling

Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:13:47 -0800

In Nevius' defense, his editor is a mildly-retarded bitch.

joshb

Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:08:27 -0800

two-buck-chuck?

Ciaran

Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:37:55 -0800

He's right, except that he seems to be confusing his little shitrag of a column with the New York Times.

jhatch

Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:10:29 -0800

What? I'm a blogger, and 95% of what I post is based on my own original research. There's nothing about blogging per se that forces people to post meta-news of the sort that Nevius objects to. What forces people to do that are high daily posting requirements from the publishers of blogs.

Arnaud H

Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:33:43 -0800

Yes, because C.W. Obvious' column is always so incredibly researched and enlightning. If it weren't for the fact that his stuff is printed on dead trees, C.W. would be nothing more than yet another San Francisco blogger - actually, not even - I think he lives in Walnut Creek or Pleasanton.

pantsgolem

Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:53:14 -0800

@fizzandpop: Just like Rob Mayeda, is he asian, latino? I dunno. http://www.facebook.com/people/Rob-Mayeda/1208300081 It looks to me like he's a dog. Or a Christmas tree. Mystery solved!

RinconHillSF

Tue, 09 Dec 2008 21:49:19 -0800

Can't we all just get along? I think we're all just trying to make San Franciscans aware of what's going on ... shine some light on things. We certainly NEED our newspapers ... I subscribe to the Chronicle home delivery (wednesday through sunday at least). I don't know that I'd be without information about the RIncon Hill neighborhood if the Chronicle folded up tomorrow though ... most of my information comes by way of press releases or people who recognize me as the RIncon Hill blogger guy asking me to toss stuff up on my blog. (shrug) I enjoy writing about the world around me, and I have enough of a curiosity to learn all that I can despite my day job being in a totally different orbit from journalism.

Akit

Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:59:57 -0800

It's one of my proudest achievements fizzandpop. The little guy can make a big government agency change their ways. While this one is my personal best, the one with the most visits is when I conglomerated all the comments about the city's hatred for the OutsideLands festival.

fizzandpop

Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:33:18 -0800

That's quite an achievement. I'd put that right up there with Woodward and Bernstein breaking Watergate.

Akit

Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:18:50 -0800

If it wasn't for my blog and help from the Chron's Phil Bronstein (who also did a blog entry), there wouldn't have been a policy change on Muni regarding BART-Muni transfer tickets for the return trip from baseball games. See here: http://www.akit.org/2008/07/why-dont-they-take-muni-to-bart.html http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/category?blogid=47&cat=1742

fizzandpop

Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:59:14 -0800

There is one major difference between CW Nevius and most bloggers: he gets a pay check and can therefore file his words under "work", not "hobbies"

mamcart

Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:36:25 -0800

Big words coming from a guy who ripped off SFist for his last column on AdamsBlock.com!

The Angry Young Man

Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:46:30 -0800

Pffft! CW Nevius does the exact same thing a lot of bloggers do. He reads a news story and then poops out his opinion on whatever the topic might be. Oh, so he calls up a few people to get some quotes. Big deal. That requires the kind of effort that isn't. He prolly doesn't even do any of the calling. That's what interns are for. Regardless, he's hardly some kind of glamorous, hard hitting journalist.

Plug1

Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:42:29 -0800

"But what I see bloggers doing is taking the raw material they get from news organizations like this and riffing off of it. If the bloggers didn’t have us to do the start of the work for them, I don’t know what they’d blog on." what? the hell?? apparently Mr Nevius has never checked out WHAT IM SEEING dot com. i carry a camera (or 3) with me everywhere i go. and i go lots of places. and talk to lots of people. and then go home and upload my original content and findings, much to the delight the few Loyal Readers that check in daily. the above might be true for some aggregate blogs, but not for my shitty little piece of the internet.

manys

Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:37:12 -0800

Um, why is anybody paying attention to Nevius, just because he learned the word "blogger?" The sooner people stop giving newspapers and websites a reason to hire commentators based on their ability to generate controversy the sooner CW Nevius has to go back to whatever he was doing before his kneepads wore out and his mouth turned into sandpaper. He doesn't have a point.

Greg

Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:36:47 -0800

The Chronicle should not be in the business of harshing on bloggers...they have made so many cuts to their editorial staff and reporters and so on, they just can't report on news as much as they used to. Plus, the Chron has had a reputation for skimming blogs for ideas for stories. That's nothing evil, since hey, people should be looking beyond their desk for ideas, but it's kind of a bit much for CW (who as far as I can tell writes a blog, only longer and on paper , riffing on current events) to harsh on bloggers (and let's face it blogs can be anything form "pictures of my cat today" to some media enterprise so it's hard to stereotype). Ah, subtlety, something we lost at the turn of the century..

SFJoe

Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:31:39 -0800

The Chronicle is nothing more than a collection of press releases punctuated by the occasional column about cats. Nevius actually thinks he does work?

fizzandpop

Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:27:30 -0800

Is CW Nevius asian? I can never decide. Just like Rob Mayeda, is he asian, latino? I dunno. http://www.facebook.com/people/Rob-Mayeda/1208300081

murphstahoe

Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:26:11 -0800

Nevius is quickly rising up to the point where he might actually challenge Rob Anderson on my shitlist. And that is really saying something.

RobInSF

Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:12:49 -0800

a. Hire me. 2. I sit on my ass all day long and read the AP news wire then create pithy commentary on the information. c. You keep reporting local flavor and listening to the police scanner. 4. ??? e. Profit

sf_bikebike

Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:59:32 -0800

what a bitch.

Generic

Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:34:29 -0800

Wait, Chuck Nevius is styling himself as a reporter and not a columnist? Because what does a columnist do, if not riff off information?

hillarys_quivering_lip

Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:31:44 -0800

Can't wait til he starts blaming bloggers for taking his parking space. CW is a tool.

travin

Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:27:55 -0800

so essentially he objects to the ecology of media but moreso that he thinks bloggers are lower on the foodchain. [Cue video of insects devouring a corpse]

periqueblend

Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:20:33 -0800

not only that he is worst columnist in the world. talk about a being as deep as birdbath. and fully half of his columns take place w/in a block of either the chronicle or his favorite bars.