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<title>zippy_monster</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 14:35:30 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;moonman: next you&apos;re gonna tell me that humans are the only animals that damage the environment.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>moonman</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 11:02:29 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;I think pigeons are fine.  They&apos;re only filthy because they live in human filth.  They&apos;ve adapted amazingly well to our garbage filled cities.  I think it&apos;s really arrogant to feel any irritation towards them when we&apos;re the ones who are polluting the planet.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>airickoo</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:06:05 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;I personally hate pigeons as I have had several bad encounters with them, so I am all for this system as long as it doesn&apos;t kill them.  Also, I&apos;m surprised that no one has commented on the name of the system...it&apos;s hilarious.  I wish there was a &quot;human-b-gone&quot; to get rid of extremely irritating humans as well.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>renzomatic</title>
<link>http://sfist.com/2008/09/11/bird_shocking_devices_yn.php#comment-1460799</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:15:50 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Bluecanary, you&apos;re a silly bird yourself.  The &apos;shock&apos; is akin to licking a 9v battery.  How much &apos;charge&apos; you think that little solar panel generates?

As to the Macy&apos;s guy, I am sure he wasn&apos;t &apos;personally&apos; against pigeons (I&apos;ve met some very nice ones in my day) but probalby didn&apos;t like the damage they caused to the building. 

As to your suggestion to not build things with ledges, then of course, we&apos;d have ugly sqare buildings with no details, which of course you would likely complain about too.

Also note, pigeon guano in large amounts is actually considered hazardous waste and actually has to be cleaned up by the same guys, using the same procedures, as asbestos abatement.   &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>bluecanary</title>
<link>http://sfist.com/2008/09/11/bird_shocking_devices_yn.php#comment-1460749</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 12:36:26 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;A developer who does not want pigeon shit or hoboes sleeping on the ledges should design the building without ledges.

I read that the Macy&apos;s guy freaking hated pigeons.  So he had the building built without ledges.

Don&apos;t like birds and hoboes? Don&apos;t make buildings that are inviting for them, and then put giant shockers and spikes and other rude things there. Deliberate cruelty looks far worse than no ledges.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>ChesterY</title>
<link>http://sfist.com/2008/09/11/bird_shocking_devices_yn.php#comment-1460678</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:53:04 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;They&apos;re there for deterrance, not execution.

A building owner who doesn&apos;t want pigeon shit all over the building, windows, and sidewalks also does not want dead pigeons all over the same.

The real shame of pigeon-shockers is that they don&apos;t also shock the idiot humans who feed pigeons.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>jacksevanroo</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:21:41 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;I love the name Bird-B-Gone. It&apos;s like something out of looney tunes. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>MalcoveMagnesia</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 03:07:36 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;b-b-b-but it&apos;s SOLAR powered!  &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>bluecanary</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:16:58 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;this is disgusting. I&apos;ll never step foot in Crocker Galleria again.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>travin</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:17:43 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;jameth, in this land of sexual freedom you can do what ya like. Just don&apos;t walk around holding up a copy of Birder&apos;s World and people will show you some respectz.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>jameth</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:25:08 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Fuck pigeons. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>mariconsoy</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:05:41 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;how much could each device be pawned for?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>cowsaysmeow</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:54:42 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;If it doesn&apos;t kill them, yes.  If it does, no.

@apqWireless: I wouldn&apos;t mind one to get mine to stop crapping underneath the table...blech. :P&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>apgWireless</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:47:49 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Do they have a version for cats? hehe&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>ChesterY</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:35:30 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;These usually run on the edge of a ledge...where pigeons like to chill. A better implementation would probably cover more surface area, but this might be enough to push the pigeons to less problematic hangouts. And, at the least, it&apos;ll keep them from shitting right off the edge, which puts peds and windows in the line of fire.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Shibi</title>
<link>http://sfist.com/2008/09/11/bird_shocking_devices_yn.php#comment-1460049</link>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:13:10 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;What do you do... grab a bird and make it touch the shock-pad?  How does this work?  Would it deter birds?  There seems to be plenty of unshocking surface available where the feathered could plan their mighty revenge or think bird-thoughts without a shock.  I would just like to see this in action.  &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>ChesterY</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:42:08 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;It doesn&apos;t fucking *electrocute* birds. It just shocks them so they&apos;ll go somewhere else. Pigeons are nothing but rats that fly, so...I vote yes.

And this is not an extreme measure. Electric shock systems are common tools for pigeon abatement...not as common as they would be if they weren&apos;t so expensive.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Generic</title>
<link>http://sfist.com/2008/09/11/bird_shocking_devices_yn.php#comment-1460020</link>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:40:40 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Outrage should be dependent on voltage. Need more info. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>travin</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:30:34 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;well at least it&apos;s a sustainable device.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>sf_bikebike</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:29:24 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Put it on Heather Fongs chair, maybe she will do something for once.
&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>mpantone</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:25:51 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Roast squab is delicious!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>wsanders</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:55:44 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;It&apos;s just sitting there on a ledge? By the time you read this, I&apos;m sure that thing will have been stolen and put to much better use.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Akit</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:46:23 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Hmmm... an eco friendly electric chair...&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>TheCharlie</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:46:20 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;As much as I hate it, it seems more humane than the bird spikes at the BART stations. I hate seeing a mangled, dead bird stuck in the spikes.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>periqueblend</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:45:48 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;that website looks like satire&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>icbalaam</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:43:01 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;They only get shocked after being convicted of their 3rd strike, right?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>KWillets</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:38:55 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Show them birdse.cx.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Akit</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:36:56 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;They should have used it on the guy who ran from the cops and jumped to his death.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>sf_bikebike</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:34:57 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;does it also work on crack heads?
&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>mindful_indulgence</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:21:10 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;birds are disgusting. they deserve it.  &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Deborah</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:14:04 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;I love it. Fry &apos;em!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>TeamAwesome</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:12:40 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;eff em.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>foobaresef</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:07:31 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;It makes bald eagles cry.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>itsdahagao</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:06:51 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Is this at the Crocker Galleria?

They must have a major bird problem to resort to this...&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>kmsinsf</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:06:26 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;I bet that warning is helpful to the birds who take the time to read it, so that they can avoid being shocked.  I kinda want to touch it to see what it feels like, the shock.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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