SFist: And So It Begins

wchase

Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:39:16 -0800

i'm sorry, did you say something?

sf_bikebike

Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:47:25 -0800

Make mopeds be quiet when im watching movies! And motorcycles and scooters! god damn it!

manys

Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:40:54 -0800

Oh please, the only people Nader/Gonz are going to be raising issues with are their acolytes. FREE MUMIA!

Generic

Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:38:01 -0800

Bluecanary, you still haven't answered the question: Why do you hate black people?

bluecanary

Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:46:53 -0800

And Gore has no one to blame either. After watching him debate Bush, even I thought he came off as an asshole. And I like him!

bluecanary

Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:45:52 -0800

Although I agree that Nader's current campaign might seem ill-conceived, Gonzalez has said the purpose of their campaign is not to win, but to raise issues. And the issues that Gonzalez has raised about Obama are valid ones. The fact that the young-ens are getting swept away like he's some kind of messiah is just a sad commentary on how ill-informed people are. Is he better than Bush? Well yes, but who isn't? My dog would be a better leader. And anyone who thinks Nader "ruined" the last election clearly was not watching the absolute train wreck of a campaign Kerry ran. Kerry has no one to blame for that election but his own sorry self. If Nader is any kind of "spoiler" then that just means the democrats aren't running a competent campaign. And I didn't hear any democrats bitching when Perot handed the election to Clinton.

Xenu

Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:02:35 -0800

Ralph Nader: ruining elections since before most of us were born.

sf_bikebike

Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:02:03 -0800

i do :)

hillarys_quivering_lip

Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:50:39 -0800

sf_bikebike - are you kind? do you rewind before dropping netflix in the mail? I bet you do! *smooch*

sf_bikebike

Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:51:05 -0800

Loud mopeds and scooters piss me off. Like when your watching a movie and they zoom by and you cant even hear what was just said, and you have to rewind! ughh!

RinconHillSF

Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:29:42 -0800

I support the idea of more parties getting into the mix .... stickers on public light poles and so on pisses me off.

Greg

Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:22:52 -0800

polls are useless, if these clowns aren't even on the ballot in most states, it means nada. plus they're not even running as greens so they can't use the green party to get on the ballot. btw, what's the deal with the greens? so many of 'em are leaving the party these days....and locals are supporting Obama...says a lot!

wsanders

Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:59:46 -0800

What generic said. It's a good clean fight this election, and best of all neither candidate is particularly Swift-boatable. The only people who will vote for Nader are white people who would rather vote for a cranky old white guy because the black guy isn't black enough for them.

SFJoe

Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:25:24 -0800

The 2004 election results made it completely clear that running for President was no longer about issues but all about ego for Nader. Hell, even Pat Buchanan had sense enough to stop running for President after making a low single-digit showing.

Generic

Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:21:25 -0800

I'm not so sure. Naderian shit reaches it's peak in the absence of a broad consensus (2000). Only the real diehards will try to peel away liberal votes from the first black anti-war candidate in history. Even prominent Greens like Ross Mirkirimi and Chris Daly are loudly pro-Obama. So this might be a useful exercise. It may permanently smoke out the SF posers who treat politics as a cute, contrarian social activity. For a while there, the war made it harder to tell. But I'm REALLY looking forward to playing the race card on the Naderites. (Ex: "Why does the Green Party hate black people?") I'm seriously thinking of printing up some bumper stickers.

jimH

Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:00:14 -0800

Ralph and Matt has 6% in at least one poll http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/06/poll.mccain.obama/ They might not get that much in the overall election, but they could easily turn key states to Johnny Mac. Respekt!

Plug1

Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:52:37 -0800

stop effing around and throw your vote aqui: http://www.walken2008.com/

wsanders

Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:38:23 -0800

The 17 votes they will get this time could really affect the outcome!

crow_soup

Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:18:40 -0800

truly the nadir of presidential elections...

Greg

Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:11:22 -0800

of course I meant "how" not "ho" but that latter term comes to mind for some reason whenever one thinks of the primal screamers.

Greg

Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:02:13 -0800

If people want to run around town posting stickers and posters for imaginary candidates who won't be on the ballot, they should go to Adamaforpresident.org instead. At least Admiral Adama (or Acting President Lee Adama) know ho to bathe themselves and act like adults.