SFist: Arrest In Irving Pizza Murders

ledream

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 09:52:43 -0800

This is besides the point people once again... Life in prison and getting raped is NOTHING compared to the crime Matthew Owyang committed. Remember he killed 2 people and one of them was a young father of two small children. As the saying goes: "If you make your bed, lay in it". And the cold blooded killer of these two men deserve all the bad that is headed his way.

rroseselavy

Fri, 04 Apr 2008 08:56:42 -0800

As per the above, I know somebody who went to "Club Fed" (versus the Q or Pelican Bay) and it didn't sound so terrible. (A black man, even, so let's not get into the "minorities don't go to the nice prisons" argument.) Of course, he didn't commit double murder.

Illah

Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:26:41 -0800

There's prison as in San Quentin, but there are also county jails and things of that nature. Most burglars end up in county. Not a fun place, but not ass-rape gang-ruled state prison either. Reason is many in county are only in for a relatively short time, and are relatively lower level criminals...like burglars. There's less urge to "prove yourself" during a short stay, and you're not surrounded by 25-life gang-hardened lunatics. State prison is full of violent offenders with long sentences...they have nothing to lose, so crazy gang life and infighting is really the only 'activity' they have. Double murder = San Quentin though...if this kid did it he'll be thrown into the snake pit for sure.

daithi

Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:22:34 -0800

@Angrybat, very well put, could not agree with you more.

Angrybat

Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:27:52 -0800

@ rroseselavy - Despite the popular perception of prison being one step down from a Courtyard by Marriott, it's a violent, scary, intensely unpleasant place to be. Ask anyone who's been there. Given the constant threat of violence, barely edible food, and constant racket, the free cable (not available generally, BTW) isn't much of a consolation. The same people who are clamoring for this kid to get violently raped in prison would be singing a different tune if one of their loved ones was convicted of, say, burglary and sentenced to prison.

bluecanary

Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:45:40 -0800

Well, I haven't read the sfgate comments section, but I certainly don't have an infatuation with it. But having worked in the criminal system, and read heavily on the topic, I merely pointed out it's the likely fate of a thin, young man. And he didn't even get a free slice of pizza.

rroseselavy

Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:03:44 -0800

I guess since prisoners get a free gym, cable TV, a library, and get fed fairly well (comparatively for prisoners), it makes sense that non-criminals would want to imagine something terrible about prison. This infatuation does verge on sickness, though, it's odd.

bluecanary

Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:47:52 -0800

Maybe it's because I'm not a guy, but it seems like for a guy, that would be horror. It certainly would be a horror for a chick. Esp since the kid is only 19. What kids will he see "grow up and move on" without him? Plus, there's more to being a prison bitch than just rape. Haven't you seen Oz?

periqueblend

Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:46:20 -0800

the case is still open.... wake me when someone is actually convicted....

greggers

Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:04:53 -0800

Listen: If you offer me free pizza and then back out... I will bust the caps into your ass. Word.

daithi

Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:52:29 -0800

fizzandpop, boy were we lucky. Watched the 2nd half. It was not pretty, but have the away goal. Fortress Anfield next week.

Angrybat

Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:40:52 -0800

If you have a strong stomach, check out the comments at SFGate on this story. The prison rape fascination in full swing. I don't get it either. I think it reveals more about the mind of the commenter than he or she may want revealed.

Brock Keeling

Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:25:59 -0800

yeah, i don't get the whole prison-rape-equals-hell thing. (personal fantasies aside.) it seems that having your liberties stripped from you, confined to a small space, and seeing your children grow up and move on without you is far worse than having a penis shoved up your ass. it's not like it makes you gay or anything.

manys

Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:20:39 -0800

If not for the fact that fair bail is a part of the Constitution, your guilty-until-proven-innocent philosophy might survive the laugh test. Keep going with those prison rape fantasies, though, they're a real hoot.

fizzandpop

Wed, 02 Apr 2008 12:54:44 -0800

@daithi Dude, it's 1-1 at halftime. Vital way goal.

Tendernob

Wed, 02 Apr 2008 12:21:46 -0800

Oh, and thanks for posting that photo right at lunchtime. Now my stomach is rumbling.

Tendernob

Wed, 02 Apr 2008 12:19:21 -0800

I sure hope they have the right punk. If all they’ve got is witness testimony, that’s not very reliable. ‘Specially since his description was, well, so non-descript.

daithi

Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:54:14 -0800

Now if could just beat Arsenal today, all would be right with the world.

daithi

Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:53:50 -0800

Steep??? There should be no bail for homicide.

bluecanary

Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:53:07 -0800

19 and nothing to look forward to but a long life of being a prison bitch. Hope the thought of free pizza was worth it.

fizzandpop

Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:48:33 -0800

They even set bail for a double homicide? Bye, bye douchebag, your 19 years on this planet have been a real benefit to humanity.