SFist: Extreme Animal Rights Activists Attack UCSC Faculty Member?

OrangeDrink

Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:04:19 -0800

One time, a girl who wanted to join ALF and was saying that she would definitely hurt somebody to protect an animal and someone asked her how she felt about hurting animals to help animals and I saw a little piece of her mind crack that day.

underachieving

Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:53:46 -0800

I am happy to know that scientists and doctors don't share the same ideas about animal rights as these nuts. I'm not fond of going back to the days when bloodletting was thought to be a cure for, well, everything.

missionperson

Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:58:47 -0800

There are many more effective things the fun brown-shirted gang can do: 1) Burn the books in the library relating to the field. 2) Hack websites relating to the field. 3) Burn crosses, or other related stuff in the front-yard of professors and other educators. Don't stop will college -- high school educators are no good either. 4) Create an atmosphere of fear on High School and College campuses. There is much precedent that these tactics are effective, Nazi Germany, the Reconstruction South, etc. Yeay Animal Rights!

manys

Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:08:18 -0800

You spelled "Xtreme" wrong.

manys

Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:03:42 -0800

You spelled "Xtreme" wrong.

LARefugee

Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:51:51 -0800

I may be a little naive but invading one's home is just plain stupid. So are bombs and-the-like. You have an idea? Good for you (and us!) engage in the "market-place" of ideas in our democracy. Don't take justice into your own hands. You cannot do this. You are shaming your movement (the actions like this make it seem like a bowel movement rather than a "cause"). That is not how we live, breathe, love each other and maintain our society. Comprende?

rageahol

Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:44:09 -0800

miss mess: somehow i suspect that you're not a scientist. "vivisection" has not been a term of art for several decades, at least. furthermore, IACUC boards are generally quite strict in allowing animal research, requiring the researcher to minimize the number of animals used by statistical power analysis, and minimize distress to the animal, allowing significant distress only when it is central to the research, as well as a significant and compelling human health concern (e.g. cancer, AIDS). saying it does not yield useful results depends on the context, and one cherry-picked example does not an indictment of all animal research make. one thing that the animal-rights nutjobs also seem to ignore is that findings from animal research are also applied to veterinary medicine.

iBarna

Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:40:28 -0800

Uh, I messed up my comment above. I meant: I condemn the crimes committed, even though I understand the motives. Animal experimenters are criminals in my eyes.

iBarna

Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:40:20 -0800

Uh, I messed up my comment above. I meant: I condemn the crimes committed, even though I understand the motives. Animal experimenters are criminals in my eyes.

iBarna

Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:37:52 -0800

Please make a distinction between animal rights activists and criminals / extremism. I support animal rights, (though I do understand the motives) however I condemn committing crimes like that. I'm sure most AR supporters feel the same way.

miss mess

Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:34:55 -0800

Assaulting innocent people in their home is unjustifiable. However, vivisection is morally reprehensible and scientifically unsound, but most importantly, it doesn't yield useful results. For example, acetaminophen (i.e. Tylenol) is lethal when ingested by cats. Can you imagine if we'd relied on those results? But in the meantime, cats - animals that most Americans would consider pets - were tortured and killed. How is that morally acceptable?

sf_bikebike

Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:29:12 -0800

that was a stupid comment. Try again.

daithi

Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:01:57 -0800

What morons, I totally believe that animal testing is morally acceptable when it is for life saving drugs. For perfume etc, well that is a different story.

daithi

Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:01:49 -0800

What morons, I totally believe that animal testing is morally acceptable when it is for life saving drugs. For perfume etc, well that is a different story.