SFist: Pretty Sneaky, Starbucks!

dolemite43

Fri, 18 Jan 2008 09:18:53 -0800

In regards to the slate article. I believe it. I never drank coffee until 3 years ago and I can give credit to Starbucks for being my entry into the coffee making world. I still go to Starbucks, but I've sure given a lot of cash to local coffee shops and I'm always up for trying a new place. Safeway and Starbucks have been in bed together for awhile... It's just too bad that Safeway might be the worst mega-g-store chain. Oh, how I miss Harris Teeter. But, yeah I'd rather go to Food Lion or Piggly Wiggly before Safeway.

rroseselavy

Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:37:56 -0800

Actually, it spans 7th and 8th Streets, so you could enter on 8th if you sneak through the loading dock (a trucker cap disguise might aid in your ruse).

miss_kelly

Fri, 18 Jan 2008 00:28:32 -0800

corrections: fifth avenue. not fifth street. and safeway is at cabrillo and seventh avenue, not eighth. cheers.

miss_kelly

Fri, 18 Jan 2008 00:28:01 -0800

corrections: fifth avenue. not fifth street. and safeway is at cabrillo and seventh avenue, not eighth. cheers.

Generic

Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:23:05 -0800

But isn't Safeway--a chain itself, we should point out--neutral territory? The Switzerland of retail marketing? Agreed. I must applaud any legislative bitchslappery of Starbucks on general principle, but in practice this one seems a bit silly. On the other hand, if you give a sprawling multinational corporation a cookie, it's gonna ask for a double-shot grandé soy pumpkin-spice Frappuccino. Maybe Safeway was the thin end of the wedge and McGoldrick was just nipping the possibility of any future loopholes in the bud.

mdw0526

Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:12:58 -0800

How fucking stupid. It's a Starbucks in a Safeway. What could possibly the problem? Oh right, stupid fucking assholes in the Planning Department and those pathetic losers who are always complaining.

Joel

Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:51:56 -0800

What a joke this town can be.

shnybny

Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:46:11 -0800

Thank you sagitta100!! Please, Starbucks, Peets, Tully's, come to Taraval, anywhere between 26th - 33rd. There are so many empty store fronts it's depressing!

Brock Keeling

Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:36:03 -0800

DJT, the Ash gained a couple of pounds as of late, so i'm less than thrilled with her.

sagitta100

Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:18:47 -0800

While I don't live in the Richmond, I believe my opinions are relevant. I live near Noriega in the Sunset, where it's 2 miles between coffee shops. Seriously, there's only 2 coffee shops: House of Coffee at 22nd Ave and Sea Biscuit Cafe at 46th Ave. So Safeway decided to put a tiny little Starbucks in at Noriega and 30th. It's a pathetic excuse of a coffee shop. It's so tiny, I think I have a larger coffee maker at home than they do. The independents haven't given us enough friggin coffee. What Noriega really needs is a full blown Starbucks or Peets in between Sea Biscuit and House of Coffee. I would welcome Peets or Starbucks to Noriega St because it would improve the neighborhood. And I would protest any neighborhood attempt to block such a coffee shop.

cowsaysmeow

Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:14:30 -0800

Eh, that's not so bad, there's not much out on that strip anyway. Besides, a megachain within a megachain just doesn't seem as irkworthy to me as a stand-alone place in a location that already has a lot of coffee places and not enough supermarkets.

DJTennessee

Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:09:40 -0800

I am astonished that an Olson twin's image would appear with a red "X" over her on a Keeling-edited blog.

citi_zen

Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:01:12 -0800

I was also bummed to not see the Starbucks open in the Safeway.... when I'm in the 'hood, I go to the local chain, Martha & Bros who opened on Clement. but when I'm at Safeway, I would like to be able to sometimes buy a beverage! I agree with rroseselavy - I don't think they just "popped" this starbucks in after all the permits & planning department ok's were done... shouldn't our wonderful supervisor be asking what happened?

rroseselavy

Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:45:08 -0800

I assume that Safeway went through all of the necessary public planning procedures before building their store. Isn't this changing the rules of the game after they've already done their due diligence? This is discrimination, pure and simple. I work near 8th and Cabrillo and will go there EVERY DAY (when it opens again) just to spite the jerks who condemn Starbucks rather than put out a better product.

lazthedog

Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:36:29 -0800

Slate just ran this counterintuitive piece (or polemic, depending on your perspective) about how Starbucks can actually increase the market for coffee, and even boost sales at independent coffeehouses. ck it out: http://www.slate.com/id/2180301/