SFist: Late-Night Pizza Ban? That's Crazy Talk!

wsanders

Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:33:36 -0800

I heart Bluecanary's comment and everything it stands for! My country, right or wrong, except for ranch dressing on pizza.

Brock Keeling

Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:12:44 -0800

"3am/4am bar last call? one can only dream. never gonna happen. one of those things we have to accept. SF just isn't as cool as it thinks it is." agreed. for years i would bitch about why this wasn't a reality, but...it isn't. and you're right, it never will be.

Kay

Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:09:18 -0800

there are bars that are open past 2am without serving alcohol. they cost $20 a head usually, to subsidize the loss of alcohol revenue. and they all play awful house music. 3am/4am bar last call? one can only dream. never gonna happen. one of those things we have to accept. SF just isn't as cool as it thinks it is.

Jeremy_ofSF

Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:27:59 -0800

I'm with PhilG, pushing last call back to 3 or 4 sounds like a much better solution. Was it 2004 when the Late Night Coalition was busing people up to Sacramento to lobby for it? But MADD and the CHP shot it down. Stoopid. I heard recently that San Jose is trying out letting bars stay open until 3AM without serving alcohol. All I could find about it was this: http://www.sjdowntown.com/bus_nightlife.html That seems reasonable enough, but it makes me think of two questions: Why do they need a pilot program if they're not serving booze? And how much motivation is there for bars to stay open later if they're not selling booze and the workers aren't getting any more tips?

Brock Keeling

Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:10:19 -0800

never underestimate the power of ranch dressing. it's a siren song for sure.

Dan Berkes

Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:06:25 -0800

A ban like this would cause ranch dressing futures to plummet. Seriously, last time I was out late nothing but a bunch of drunks stumbling into the pizza place, ordering their slices and bellowing RANCH CAN I HAVE SOME RANCH DRESSING RANCH CAN I HAVE SOME RANCH.

PhilG

Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:57:05 -0800

Hey, here's a crazy idea - how about Mark Leno trying to change the laws around closing times again, so you don't have every bar in the city dumping people onto the streets at the exact same time, thus leading to the unruly behavior that this ban is trying quell? When Britain liberalized their licensing laws, there was a noticible drop in fights and street crime of the sort that seems to be at issue here: discussion of extended closing times and article citations on SFScene

zig

Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:02:09 -0800

But then that might not be as politically correct to bring up Its easier to just blame those crash suburbanites right

zig

Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:00:52 -0800

"bridge-n-tunnel folk CAUSING the fights" I know for a fact that it is not all out of town people causing trouble on weekends in North Beach A lot of local gang members and kids are part of the problem

sfmike

Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:06:21 -0800

Brava, Lisa and Blue Canary. I can't decide which is more offensive, the lazy San Francisco police force or Mr. and Mrs. Aaron Peskin who want to turn North Beach into Presidio Heights.

fizzandpop

Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:58:23 -0800

Actually that line comes from The Young Ones, series one, episode 3, and I quote: "Rick: Neal, I hate you and everything you stand for!"

LisaLives

Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:37:04 -0800

Bluecanary, LOL at "Fuck you and everything you stand for."

bluecanary

Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:20:14 -0800

I agree with LisaLives. The drunks stumbling up my street at night for the obligatory drunken escapade to Coit Tower is just part of the experience of living in North Beach. I, too, have been known to drag up a chair and watch the hilarious proceedings, including: slutty drunken teen getting into fight with equally slutty drunken mother; a girl in a very drunken fight with boyfriend, shrieking "Fuck you and everything you stand for," (which my husband and I have adopted and use frequently just for the humor value); and the inevitable bridge and tunnelers getting their cars stuck as they try to park on my street. Besides, isn't food supposed to help sober you up? The last thing these guys need to do is get into their cars on a stomach filled with nothing but booze. Maybe instead the cops could just get off their lazy, cafe-sitting asses and do their jobs by arresting the miscreants, rather than trying to put people out of business. There are far too many North Beachers who are trying to turn this neighborhood into a gated community rest home, and I for one, am sick of it. To the suburbs, you crabby old folk.

Hodge

Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:56:02 -0800

What's the next target? Late-night taquerias? OH THE HUMANITY.

ChinaNob

Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:51:35 -0800

cowsaymeow beat me to it. this is just more evidence that the uptight, yuppie NIMBY's moving to this City are completing ruining it. If you want to live in the 'burbs, GO MOVE TO THE FUCKING 'BURBS. This is, ladies and germs, a Big City(tm). And in Big Cities(tm) there are tall buildings, and not a lot of street parking, and it gets noisy, and dirty, and crowded, and there are bars and restaurants and all sorts of shit to do (the reason you moved here in the first place), and yes, drunk people partying on a Saturday night. We could just go and shut down the whole city to make these jerkoffs happy. Or, more reasonably, we could just go and round up all the NIMBY jerkoffs, put them in a big sack, tie a rock to it and dump them off the GG Bridge.

manys

Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:21:52 -0800

Bad LisaLives! If you're not a part of the solution you're a part of the problem. Can't you see the damage and, dare I say, Jihadist anarchy you're fomenting?

LisaLives

Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:08:29 -0800

I've lived in North Beach for 20 years now. Hearing the drunks stumble around hooting and hollering after the bars close is like hearing the wild parrots squawking overhead. That's just how North Beach sounds. I actually sort of get a kick out of it. I sleep with earplugs but if I happen to be up late and hear the drunken crowds getting unruly, I usually take a seat near the window and watch them for a while...it can be pretty entertaining.

RobInSF

Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:35:10 -0800

What would be *really* funny is if the SFPD had patrol cars cruising NB between 1-3am on Friday and Saturday nights. They could pick off drunk drivers one after another. I'm sure that would temper things just a little. I live in NB and cannot begin to count the number of drunk "wooo" screaming fools who stumble down the street then hop into their cars and drive away.

DJTennessee

Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:26:07 -0800

I predict this will cause riots the likes of which would make Parisian muslim head scarf wearers proud.

cowsaysmeow

Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:11:36 -0800

Why not go further? Why not close all the strip clubs, bars, and restaurants on Broadway? Heck, not just there, why not the whole city? Not just at night either, people are having way too much fun during the daytime and the city really needs to get a handle on that...in fact, how about we close anything even remotely interesting everywhere in the city except Fisherman's Wharf, Ghiradelli Square, and any store with a tie-dye motif on Haight (provided it's near Ashbury of course). That oughta show 'em...

manys

Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:39:20 -0800

Yeah, who says that 30-40 people *need* managing? Besides a bored cop, that is. Have we gotten to the point where freedom of assembly is only allowed where the cops can be the gatekeepers? Seems counter to the intent of the amendment.

rajbot

Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:39:05 -0800

let's just ban dudes in flip flops from coming into the city. problem solved.

Brock Keeling

Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:37:33 -0800

I second that.

mariconsoy

Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:34:39 -0800

If I'm up at 3 AM, for some reason I never have much appetite

Agent510

Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:28:24 -0800

If late-night drunken pizza runs are outlawed, only outlaws will make late-night drunken pizza runs...

Greg

Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:25:41 -0800

um....didn't North Beach just get rated like one of the top 10 neighborhoods of all time...as is? San Francisco seems to get off on taking everything that makes it somewhat interesting and trashing it. It's hilarious. In a non-ha ha sort of way.

Jon

Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:21:12 -0800

Jesus. Doesn't everyone know that the late-night drunken pizza run is a staple of a night out on the town? Think of all the people who'd be extra hungover and/or throwing up without the greasy deliciousness of getting pizza at 3 AM?

Joel

Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:01:06 -0800

Wow, 30, 40 people getting pizza. Sounds like a regular riot.

the_absentee

Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:38:20 -0800

How will the bridge-n-tunnel folk CAUSING the fights drive home without sobering up on a slice of greasy pepperoni first? With the city trying to stop alcohol sales at NB fests and now this, why don't we just make North Beach a retirement community? You want to live in a quiet community move to Moraga.