SFist: Day Around the Bay

the default attorney

Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:35:18 -0800

Jas: I had the same reaction. I don't think jazz is dead, but the article's point is that as a fancy jazz club where tickets run $40 a pop, this isn't the best way to get the neighborhood involved. It will just bring an influx of the well-to-do, which isn't so much redevelopment as colonization. But Noe Valley was once a blue collar neighborhood, so what do I know.

the default attorney

Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:35:03 -0800

Jas: I had the same reaction. I don't think jazz is dead, but the article's point is that as a fancy jazz club where tickets run ~$40 a pop, this isn't the best way to get the neighborhood involved. It will just bring an influx of the well-to-do, which isn't so much redevelopment as colonization. But Noe Valley was once a blue collar neighborhood, so what do I know.

Jas

Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:07:22 -0800

I'm sorry, but Jazz a "dead form of music"? Why don't you research that a little more and then get back to us. Thanks.

htessay

Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:57:57 -0800

Hey, DC1974....what the hell do you think the Jazz Preservation District and Yoshi's is all about? Creating what you say you have on U Street. Don't for a second think that U Street has rebounded just because of a focus on its history...Yes, that played a role...but so did lots of upper middle-class folks moving into cheap real estate within walking distance of K Street and the White House...And the Whole Foods down the block from U Street didn't hurt things...Give the Fillmore thing a chance before you start spouting off and swallowing whole the Beyond Chron's latest complaint..Or stay at DCist. Aight?

Keight

Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:09:12 -0800

I have a few Point Reyes shots if anyone is interested .. http://www.flickr.com/photos/katedollarhyde/sets/72157600153540021/

Plug1

Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:23:14 -0800

wow brock, you threw me a curve ball tonite. to date, in order to make the ranks of "day around the bay", ive had to post about: taking frank chu to a giants game, a mass thriller dance-party in dolores park, and finding a used condom on the T-Third. and this evening it just so happens that you also appreciate our quaint sightings of a antique tugboat, a cow with a view of the pacific, and a little old lighthouse. right on, dude. thanks for all the linkage.

DC1974

Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:51:35 -0800

The problem with Bay Area jazz is that y'all took the black out. Or perhaps its because the Bay Area (especially SF) has a relatively small middle class African American community. (Oakland fairs better, obvs.) Jazz continues to be huge in DC, and is still particularly big with African American families and middle class. But we haven't tried to whiten it up to a multicultural stew in the way that Bay Area jazz has. The opening of a new jazz club or a the start of a new jazz festival is still a big deal in DC. But we have the clientele that will support it. Our very own U street has in many ways owed its rejuvenation to a focus on its history as being a the Black Broadway and center of Washington's African-American jazz and theater history. And even has become the center for a good number of recent African immigrants. Despite the importance of SF Jazz festival -- SF is seen by the Jazz community at large as not having held on to the African American roots of Jazz. Yoshi's, as good as it is, will only reinforce this.

Spencer Williams

Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:13:44 -0800

In regards to Yoshi's - My wife said exactly that as we were watching the 5 o'clock news.

Greg

Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:51:55 -0800

awesome! thanks for the link!