SFist: SFist Photo: Exxon Valdez Doppelgänger Visits SF Bay

manys

Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:43:03 -0800

Ha ha, yeah. I ride my bike up Monterey all the time past Hazelwood and Valdez (nice neighborhood...can we call it Excelside Wood?).

RicardoSF

Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:23:59 -0800

Maybe they'll get streets in SF named after them. Lookie here, in the Sunnyside (or is it Westwood Heights?), the Exxon lives on . . .

phastphill

Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:41:41 -0800

There sure are risks in sea cargo transport! I was on the Oakland/SF ferry when the accident happened. Didn't hear a thing. I also didn't see a thing, but that's not a surprise, since I couldn't see the guy sitting across from me. Seriously, I've only lived here for 8 years, but that morning was the thickest fog I've ever seen, as thick as winter tule fog in fresno. How much do you bet that planes headed to SFO were delayed that morning? That's because there are risks in transporting people by air, and the FAA knows that, and they minimize them as best they can. Did you know that the fog was so thick that day that they stopped loading containers on/off in Port of Oakland? There are risks in that too, and I guess they didn't want to drop a couple of tons of steel in the wrong place. So how about this. When it's too foggy to load cargo, it's also too foggy to move cargo. It's a no-brainer. All this BS about "considering" escorts and new fog regulations is ridiculous -- it should have been in place already, should be in place now, shouldn't take months of hand-wringing and deliberating.

SFistJim

Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:37:33 -0800

Didn't say the Long Beach spilled any oil. Didn't say the Long Beach is the only single hull tanker out there. I'd say most Bay Areans are ignorant of the fact that the 'Deez has been effectively banned from its raison d’etre while the virtually identical Long Beach soldiers on. This is news to some people. If somebody wants to say they aren't virtual twins, I'm all ears. The Bone says, "There were skilled enough individuals on board this ship. They didn't carry out their missions correctly." Only time will tell how things pan out.

scupper

Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:22:00 -0800

The S/R long beach has been safely calling on SF Bay terminals for nearly 20 years. She is not the only single hulled tanker out there. It is not news that the ship is either here or is the sistership of the Valdez. In point of fact the Doppelgänger reference is being made from a position of fear and ignorance. Suggest checking your facts against the reality of the situation with tankship operations in US waters. Make no mistake about it, shipping is a risky business no matter how you cut it. It is a constant competition between forces whether its environmental, structural, human or otherwise. The fact is these mariners do thier utmost to navigate safely and with great care. To criticize the system underwhich these crews and thier vessels operate is a great dis-service to the entire industry. These are the risks we take when transporting cargo by sea.