SFist: Mirror Mirror on the Wall, Who's the Liberalist of Them All

sangfroid826

Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:41:17 -0800

SF owns the number one spot by any and all objective scorecards. LGBT? Check. The Environment? Check. The War? Check. Drugs (writ large) Check. Health care? Check. Minimum wage? Check. Unions? Immigration? A draw, at best. The only think we're at the middle of the pack on is race-relations. Our batting average slays all comers. Dr. Mollenkopf is, forgive me, a tard. Professor Muzzio was right. San Francisco is the bluest, most liberal city in America, bar none. It’s almost beneath argument. Can you see San Francisco electing a Republican mayor under any circumstances? Did you see the ballot returns for Arnold within these 7 square miles? Is the Green Party a serious political presence in New York? Can you imagine LA ever agonizing over something like Care Not Cash? Please. Although it hasn’t moved the national conversation since the 1960’s, Berkeley is a fair contender to the throne. Madison, Wisconsin is not. If we are to base “liberal” by, oh I don’t know, election returns or progressive social policy or, fuck, ANYTHING ELSE, the city and county of San Francisco are miles apart from NYC & LA. Can we get back to our regularly scheduled blogging? These PoliSci geeks at the Times are embarrassing.

pancakebreakfast

Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:50:43 -0800

Please don't associate all vegans with stupid Burning Man-attending hippies. Most of us actually bathe and have jobs, but simply don't like to eat animals.

makfan

Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:46:57 -0800

Those W'04 stickers are probably on the back of mondo SUVs.

spidra

Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:18:43 -0800

Going to the article in question, I can see the good doctor just asserts that LA is more liberal. He does not cite evidence. Having been born and raised in the LA metropolitan area, I moved to the SF Bay Area because it is more liberal. It's true that it really depends where you make the cutoff...which regions you include. For instance, at the time I moved up here, bringing your own bags to the grocery store would have gotten you goggle-eyed stares in even the most liberal parts of LA. Back then, it was already reasonably accepted in SF although it may have garnered a few snickers. Still, it's good to remember that if we look at the SF Bay Area as a whole, there are plenty of places where people DON'T bring bags to the store, proudly display "W 0'4" stickers on their cars and have city plans that are actively hostile to bike-riding, for instance. And people in the SF Bay Area are every bit as guilty of riding one to a car as they are in LA. They just have better maritime breezes to blow the smog along to some other region.

Jess Drake

Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:33:25 -0800

It's most liberal, Jon. Most liberal. :-)

MalcoveMagnesia

Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:32:44 -0800

These lists are too subjective. Everyone already knows my hometown of Detroit is the most liberal city in the USA. (and the most tourist friendly, too).

sagitta100

Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:35:25 -0800

San Francisco must triple its population before it can even hope to be compared in any meaninful way with New York. For better or worse, that transition is already underway.

pantsgolem

Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:12:29 -0800

We need to invite the judges back during Folsom, obviously.

cowsaysmeow

Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:39:18 -0800

!!! That's surprising to me...I wonder what the rationale was - granted, if you compare the actual city of LA to other places in SoCal, it's one of the most liberal if not the most liberal, but even so, for every Venice there's a Chatsworth...I'm not so sure there's a St. Francis Wood for every Haight though.