SFist: BART Supervisors Oppose Newsom's War on Halloween

harmreduction

Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:30:54 -0800

Sangfroid- your comment rocked my world! Best comment her-sorry Chris

sangfroid826

Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:39:15 -0800

People, please, please. I beg you: can't we just settle this matter via LOLCATS? I submit IM IN YR KAZTRO and WE CAN HAS BART? for your bloggy pleasure.

ihartsf

Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:32:25 -0800

I wonder if Bayview Hunters Point is wondering how many more shots need to be fired in their neighborhood to get this kind of attention.

IMonster

Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:20:06 -0800

This logic is amazing. Civic center isn't really that much further of a walk from the Castro (and last year it was easier to get off there and walk, since BART was so damn crowded..) If folks were that lazy, they could just hop on one of the MUNI trains and take it to church street instead.

suckafree

Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:49:57 -0800

chris, are you taking notes? greg, want a job as the district 6 supervisor?

Ted S

Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:45:25 -0800

Newsom is a genious. Remind me again how he was going to host the olympics? Perhaps he was going to shut the whole city down and throw us all out, except athletes, dignitaries, and television cameras.

daithi

Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:26:48 -0800

Then you have every right to get your big mouth involved in this one Chris.

Greg

Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:21:13 -0800

There has been so much mismanagement of this process, it's hard to know where to begin. I don't see this going particularly well when so many of these decisions seemed to have been made on the fly. Why not just impose a 9pm curfew and call in the National Guard? I mean if you're gonna screw up transit (but not cars) and some neighborhoods over others, why not just go all the way and then that way it's at least "fair." We'll see. Hopefully things will work out but I plan on being out of town that night. Last year we had record police presence and STILL had some idiot with a gun shoot a bunch of people. So I'm hoping this year goes better. Good thing the mayor's opponents are a pack of scaredycats - a blunder on Halloween would be too late in the campaign to spin away and would have propelled them to victory. But then again, there's a reason why Progressives = Scaredycat Yappers.

Chris Daly

Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:15:32 -0800

16th/Mission is most certainly in District 6.

KWillets

Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:12:33 -0800

I'm hoping they'll close the Central Freeway too then, since we'll undoubtedly have a huge traffic jam if all other transportation options are cancelled. From what I've seen most shootings involve automobiles.

Chris Daly

Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:10:43 -0800

Hi Cat. MUNI Metro west of Van Ness will be closing Halloween night also, but the N-Judah will be running and the Duboce Park stop (.5 miles from Market/Castro) will be open. FYI, 16th/Mission is .9 miles from Market/Castro. I submitted a letter of inquiry today to the Mayor's Office about the process for selecting these particular closures. A MUNI official told me that Halloween's going to be "quite a night" for them. What a mess.

daithi

Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:05:32 -0800

Cat, muni is also closing at church, and castro stations. By the way is 16th and mission in Chris Daleys district? I thought Tom represented that location, but any excuse to make trouble for Dufty.

cat

Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:58:55 -0800

The choice to close 16th and Mission BART is truly baffling. I live very near where the Castro Halloween party festivities happen (Church and Market), and when I take BART to my place I get off at one of the downtown stops and then ride Muni underground here. It doesn't make much sense to close 16th and Mission - especially confusing if it's the only ONLY one to be closed - because there are more and better options to get to the Castro. I'm curious if the City is also closing the Castro or Church Muni stops, or if it just punishing BART riders who rely on service at 16th and Mission...

mdw0526

Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:54:51 -0800

"Shitsucking gasbag the mayor"?? Puh-leeze. Tom Radulovich has aligned with the biggest loser in city politics (Chris Daly, in case you couldn't figure that out) to whine so verbosely about what is, in fact, not a bad idea. There's been enough notice; people can adapt.

RinconHillSF

Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:54:17 -0800

Weren't there similar arguments about Healthy Saturdays closing JFK down? The poor disaffected groups x, y, and z. Petulant.

suckafree

Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:46:45 -0800

all forms of public transit have to by shut down to keep the bridge and tunnel crowd from trying to get to the party that's been canceled. this is a good move. closing offramps into the city might make sense as well. i don't know how you'll keep last years bayview hoods out though.

RinconHillSF

Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:45:49 -0800

How do you spell Petulant?

RinconHillSF

Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:44:33 -0800

Oh, and, um... somebody has WAY too much time on his hands to write all that fluff

RinconHillSF

Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:43:16 -0800

Maybe this is one fairly inexpensive way to try to curb impulsive folks from coming to the City at a time when our Police force is far too understaffed to protect us on a regular weekend much less a holiday that seems to attract folks to one particular neighborhood. It may be expensive for the Mayor politically, proven by all the cry baby goings on already, but I respect him for trying to mitigate the problem before the event rather than just allowing things to unfold and see what happens. At least this is a planned closing that all the disabled, elderly, and so on know about ahead of time ... kinda like I know I shouldn't even consider getting in my car to go grocery shopping when the Giants are playing ball at AT&T Park. C'est la vie.

bob brigham

Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:41:51 -0800

Indeed, Radulovich is elected, not staff. And he is spot on.

aj

Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:31:20 -0800

Slight correction, Tom Radulovich is an elected member of the BART Board of Directors from SF, not a staff member.

RobInSF

Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:23:17 -0800

Why not close the Bay Bridge and the Stockton tunnel and 101 Northbound and 280 Northbound and give everyone a nice warm blanky to hide under to protect us all from the big bad evil boogeymen coming to get us tomorrow night.

SanFranCitizen

Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:22:50 -0800

This is such BS. Go Tom! Tom Radulovich for Mayor!

jwb

Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:10:07 -0800

If that shitsucking gasbag the mayor had also announced the closure of the Bay Bridge, I'd be OK with this. But singling out BART riders, just because the Mayor has never been on BART and considers it the domain of the filthy unwashed, is wrong. Props to Radulovich and Daly for bringing this issue to light.

Akit

Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:07:32 -0800

It make a lot of sense. Closing down major stations that also serve other communities just to single out one "bad apple" event is just plain rude. I do wholeheartedly agree that the 16th station needs to be open, especially to the elderly, and disabled. If Muni is also forced to re-route bus lines, I hope they put into consideration that if they go to the next block or so, they still make their respective stops in the area to give courtesy to the elderly and disabled as well.

aj

Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:02:58 -0800

Hear hear. Closing BART a half mile away is just moronic. There are many thousands of people who use that station for reasons completely unrelated to any Halloween hoo-hah, why should they have to hoof it to 24th Street?

mcgordonliddy

Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:00:37 -0800

I agree with this wholeheartedly, and recommend that we come together in the Castro on Halloween to protest.