SFist: BART Will Know When You're Sleeping, Awake, Riding the Last Car

zippy_monster

Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:21:15 -0800

West Side Wacko: get yer facts straight and stop being so selfish. http://www.bart.gov/docs/DRAFT%20FY08%20SRTP_CIP.txt http://www.sfmta.com/cms/rbudget/documents/FY200520FastPassonBART.pdf $0.97/trip is less than what other agencies are paying for other services, and well less than the full retail value of such a trip. Now let's assume for a moment that you're correct (you, however, are not). Let's say that MUNI offered a discount to those who didn't ever want to use their FastPass on BART. Okay. At best that'll merely encourage more people to use MUNI instead of BART. Where's that extra capacity gonna come from? Your so-called subsidy benefits you by providing additional MUNI capacity.

sagitta100

Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:52:56 -0800

Part of the $45/mo Muni fastpass price covers the cost Muni has to pay BART each month. So yes, the westside fastpass buyers do subsidize BART. Think of it this way, if those on the westside could purchase "naked" (no BART) Muni fastpasses, then the price of a normal "combined" Muni fastpass would have to increase to compensate for the lost BART funds. So I'm either subsidizing BART or subsidizing downtown/Mission fastpass holders, depending on your perspective.

sangfroid826

Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:42:49 -0800

I agree that a subway extension to the western end of the city is sorely needed. But I don't know if you can make the case that SF is deprived of BART's largesse in general. We have eight stations, rivaled only by Oakland's eight. And our station-to-terminal service for SFO is a dream. That didn't cost peanuts to build.

mariconsoy

Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:12:42 -0800

BART gets a cut off your Fast Pass only if you actualy USE it on BART. That's per ride, not per month. As for the last car of the trains- unfortunately I've never seen anything juicy in one of them. Are they full of flashers and crack heads or something? Sorry I've missed out on the view of any drama.

sagitta100

Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:58:02 -0800

I live in the Outer Sunset. What is this "BART" thing of which you speak? Oh yeah, it's that distant subway I help subsidize every month when I purchase my Muni fastpass.

jph

Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:39:16 -0800

I think the preferred nomenclature is "hottt"

shromack

Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:31:29 -0800

Seriously hott Bentham/Foucault reference there. Nice.