SFist: Club Six: Going Violently Into That Good Night?

Jerry Jarvis

Tue, 05 Jun 2007 23:03:21 -0800

Update.Club 6 receives 120 Day probation after attorney for Angel opens his mouth insert foot and chew on fingers.

Jerry Jarvis

Sat, 26 May 2007 23:15:50 -0800

You know something auweia1 I bet if someone were to open a club like club 6 in the down stairs of Angel's home he would not put up with it. BOS Peskin might have been instrumental in closing of a night spot down the way from him,but because of who he was there was never this big of a stink made about it,(unless you are h-Brown)but for the poor people,people feel like it's okay.Like poor people have it coming.That maybe poor people are sub human.We often measure people by status.In reality it is a measurement of our own insecurity of life.

auweia1

Sat, 26 May 2007 20:44:42 -0800

oh one other thing. Much seems to have been made of the fact that clubs have existed in the location of Club Six since the 30's..this is true. but what nobody has mentioned is that all of the past clubs never had anywhere near the sound system club six has.I forgot the name of the club that existed in 1993 when I moved here, but you never heard them. Club Six is in a whole new category. Oh yeah, killer sound system. Kills 25 kinds of insects, etc. massage therapy in your own room whether you like it or not

auweia1

Sat, 26 May 2007 20:34:25 -0800

You're right periqueblend , 6th street is SOMA, but people associate the first block with the tenderloin at least, only because it's a similar environment as for people moving in and then complaining, I can honestly say that most of the people complaining have been here far longer than club six. I've been here for 15 years now, since about 1992 or so. Jim Ayers even longer, so in our case it's not at all like some of the other SOMA people up on 11th street that move in recently then start bitching.. I'm telling ya, there wasn't this kind of noise before club six moved in. It started out ok, when they first moved in, but then they gradually upped the volume. Now it's like, OK, you got nice woofers, can we get some sleep now?

Jerry Jarvis

Fri, 25 May 2007 23:06:53 -0800

After several community meetings with Angel Cruz,he continued to thumb his nose at the community and entertainment commission.The community tried to work with him.If you go back in to the Entertainments Commissions archive you will find that he (Angel) told them that the loud music would be kept in the basement,and that the upstairs area would be used for soft music,plays and art showings. There are other people than users and abusers that live in the SRO housing.Disabled,seniors,and working people.Club 6 moved into the neighborhood that is already struggling to become a safer,cleaner and vibrant community.Club 6 is not helping if it can't live up to it's own agreement. Just look at the good neighbor policy that it agreed to and go and check the place out and you will see that he may be meeting 3 out of 11 things that Angel agreed to.Now is that a good neighbor?

periqueblend

Fri, 25 May 2007 21:58:11 -0800

can we all please stop saying that 6th street is in the TL. Its SoMa. As a long time resident on Natoma, it is as different from the TL as Cole Valley is from is the Mission. As to the issue, SF loves to shut down clubs in SoMa. People move in next to already existing clubs, complain about the noise, club closes. In this case though, they should enforce the fucking laws they set up. Because if you are making people in SROs uncomfortable, you've clearly gone too far. And most nights, the people in club six anyway.

auweia1

Fri, 25 May 2007 21:19:12 -0800

well, I can say there's overlap there...some of the clubbers are druggies more so than the crackheads on the corner. Some of us who live here can't tell what's worse anymore, the crackheads or the clubbers, and some of them are both. which is louder, clubbers on ecstacy and drunk all night yelling at the top of their lungs? or crackheads yelling at the top of their lungs?...neither is louder, they're both bad last year, there was an illegal raver setup in a former chinese sewing factory across the alley. The owner had no idea, it was rented under false pretenses, but these guys were playing baseball in their underwear in the middle of the street, at 4am. I don't recall even the crackheads going that far. I went down there and asked them. Let me get this straight..You set up this little late night club...because...because...you can't party like this at your own house, right?....right. btw, Yogo, you're a bit off with the Shaw-Hogarth thing. I don't think that's the reason they want the club shut. In other words, shutting the club will have zero effect on the amount of drugs in the neighborhood. The crackheads are going to be in the same alley regardless of how many clubbers surround them, and I have a video to prove it check this one out >> http://www.bluoz.com/blog/index.php?/archives/98-when-crackheads-and-hipsters-collide.html as you can see, the crackheads aren't moving, and they were still there as of this morning. Whatever problems Shaw and Hogarth have within their own THC department needs to be dealt with separately from the Club Six issue, even tho there is likely some overlap. Both have problems that need fixing in my opinion, but that's for a future issue, maybe..In other words, in this building next to Club Six, a THC building, it is getting better, somewhat compared to the past, where before it was possible to prove this was a crackhouse and have the entire building confiscated by the feds, so at least that has improved. There are still good people that aren't involved in any of this crap that live here. It is a relative minority of people that cause all these problems and ruin it for everyone else, poor and what not for the Bay Guardian reporter I have one question from us 'killers of fun'..You wouldn't mind hosting a party like that at your house, would you?..because you're doing it at our house also, there is one other major club on 6th street, right across the street from Club six, called the Anu bar. Anu often has just as many people as Club six, but it's Club six that gets all the complaints. In fact, there's one person I know of that lives above the Anu bar, and he's not complaining about Anu, he's complaining about Club six, across the street

dantc

Fri, 25 May 2007 18:09:56 -0800

The clubs scare off the druggies. Okay, Yogo. Okay.

Yogo

Fri, 25 May 2007 18:04:49 -0800

Matt you are sooooo self-righteous and only pipe up when you don't agree with the writer. Many many lefties nutheads post here. Not a peep. Have the balls to ban me and all people you and Rita don't agree with or stop the passive-aggressive junk. And I didnt say all poor people are junkies. All junkies are junkies, and there are zillions of them there, supported by Shaw and the people who make money off them. Thats why they fight the club. The pimps use the crackheads to intimidate the honest poor, gouged by Shaw. The clubs scare off the druggies. Thats why Shaw/Hogarth want the club shut.

dantc

Fri, 25 May 2007 17:47:22 -0800

How delightfully classist of you, Yogo, to assume that poor = crackheads and derelicts. Speaks volumes about you, and, incidentally about many of the opposition who seem to hold the attitude of "OMG they're poor, how DARE they expect to have a semi-liveable neighborhood." I sure as hell hope that's the same attitude the supporters display at the hearing, because there's nothing I'd like more to see a room full of sneering hipsters "helping" their pet cause to a suspension.

MattyMatt

Fri, 25 May 2007 17:13:45 -0800

Some blogs adopt the attitude that there are no wrong answers or low-value comments. SFist is not among them. If you feel that you might be leaving a comment that is not entirely useful to anyone, consider withholding it.

Yogo

Fri, 25 May 2007 17:06:45 -0800

So wait we're going to side with crackheads and derelicts who shit in our streets?? They can shoot up and grope people and their protected??!? I hope the club tells slumlord Shaw and his buttlick Hogarth and fellow poverty pimp Soloman to stick it. better yet, the Club should leave and theres more vacant space for these losers to drug up and OD.

Jerry Jarvis

Fri, 25 May 2007 15:53:39 -0800

It isn't that the club needs to go,it needs to do what it said it was going to do as good neighbor.

dantc

Fri, 25 May 2007 12:53:40 -0800

You know the people living in the SROs on 6th are used to putting up with a lot of noise and craziness in their lives and homes. These are the people saying that Club Six is crossing the line. I'll side with the residents and say that club needs to go.

marc

Fri, 25 May 2007 12:49:01 -0800

The worst part about this is the tenor of the propaganda being put out on behalf of club owners. The propaganda frame is that either you agree with Gavin Newsom's war on fun or you suppot clubs unconditionally. Of course, the right answer is somewhere in the middle. The intensity of use at Club Six has risen since I was last there when that space was in another incarnation in the early 1990s. That intensity of use has risen amidst a dense residential neighborhood. In no other neighborhood would this even be an issue. -marc

auweia1

Fri, 25 May 2007 11:54:42 -0800

I have an audio interview with Jim Ayers about Club Six > http://www.bluoz.com/blog/index.php?/archives/124-Club-6-and-the-controversy.html what's with the sandbags?..that's some weird stuff....nobody knows

Mark Ballew

Fri, 25 May 2007 11:39:10 -0800

I really hope the owner of Club Six can work things out with the 'hood. The TL doesn't need yet another blighting blank building front. If the club closes, then the people living up stairs will have something new to complain about: people breaking into an abandoned shop, squatting, and sneaking up into their units.

auweia1

Fri, 25 May 2007 11:30:32 -0800

there was one night about 8 months ago 50-100 motorcycles spent the night at club six. For six hours the harleys went around in circles while the cops did the same thing. i wish now I would have gotten that on video. Very surreal. the cops would chase them out, they'd go around the block and come back...this circus went on all night. they even went through the parking lot at the end of the alley there. also, the owner of Mythic Pizza said a friend of his wants to open a produce market on 6th. there's one idea

LMAO

Fri, 25 May 2007 11:30:06 -0800

I love the rich irony that Hogarth is talking about respecting the neighborhood and Hack Jones is lecturing about responsible journalism.

Paul Hogarth

Fri, 25 May 2007 11:06:42 -0800

Angel's talking out of both sides of his mouth. On the one hand, he says a 30-day suspension would put him out of business. On the other hand, he says it won't hurt him financially. It's a scare tactic.

MattyMatt

Fri, 25 May 2007 10:59:23 -0800

The 30-day suspension could put him out of business. Obviously the policy should have teeth; but if it forces a business to close, those are pretty sharp fangs. Of course, it's not like Angel didn't know about the consequences going in.

Paul Hogarth

Fri, 25 May 2007 10:52:59 -0800

The third option is to suspend his license for 30 days, as pursuant to the Entertainment Commission's "Good Neighbor Policy" that Angel Cruz agreed to abide by. We don't want an empty building, but we want a club that respects the residential neighborhood. Club Six was found to be out of compliance, so under its own rules the Entertainment Commission must suspend his license for 30 days as a "first offense." Otherwise, the Good Neighbor Policy has no teeth.